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  • #16
    Kid Stanislaus
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4419

    In the face of a deadly threat the use of a deadly weapon is legitimate self defense.
    Things usually turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out.

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    • #17
      tcrpe
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 10269

      Bear spray is not a pesticide or a poison. FUD
      Last edited by tcrpe; 12-18-2012, 8:59 AM.
      Originally posted by SilverTauron
      Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
      Originally posted by loose_electron
      PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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      • #18
        tcrpe
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 10269

        My gun doesn't say on it that it's illegal to use on humans. Neither do my fists.
        Originally posted by SilverTauron
        Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
        Originally posted by loose_electron
        PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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        • #19
          pHredd9mm
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 99

          I used to substitute teach. I carried pepper spray, a flashlight and a folding knife in little holsters on my belt along with my cell phone. Never a word from anyone at all the schools I was at. Never took the knife or pepper spray out of the holster carriers, but did use the flashlight occasionally. Out of sight, out mind.

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          • #20
            GrizzlyGuy
            Gun Runner to The Stars
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • May 2009
            • 5468

            Originally posted by tcrpe
            Bear spray is not a pesticide or a poison. FUD
            I guess you didn't click the link I provided. Straight from the horse's (manufacturer's) mouth:

            Originally posted by GrizzlyGuy
            This thread made me curious about the legality of the large (> 2.5 Oz) bear spray canisters, as we frequently see them up here in bear country (mostly carried by tourists, we locals just yell at the bears and they scamper).

            I E-mailed my question to the folks at Counterassault.com and they replied:

            Quote:
            Yes, the bear spray is legal in California because it is a registered pesticide. The 2.5 oz restriction only applies to personal defense sprays.
            That makes bear spray legal to use against bears and other pests. Humans aren't in that category.
            Last edited by GrizzlyGuy; 12-18-2012, 9:36 AM.
            Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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            • #21
              Mitch
              Mostly Harmless
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2008
              • 6574

              If there are chairs in the classroom your wife has weapons at her disposal. The efficacy of chairs as weapons depends to a great degree on the age of the students.

              The Virginia Tech shooting could have been stopped cold if just one student threw a chair at Cho, and a couple others dogpiled on top of him.

              My GF came back from some training her company (a utility) gave on what to do about an active shooter. I was pleased to hear than instead of cowering in fear until they got shot, it was suggested they look around for anything that could be used as a weapon and use it. The training was out of some US government pamphlets, too.

              That's progress, anyway.
              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
              Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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              • #22
                Jack L
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2010
                • 1721

                Originally posted by winnre
                Bear spray can kill a person and it will not always stop bears.
                It is illegal to use bear spray on a human in CA. All cans of spray that are marked for use on animals cannot be used on humans.

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                • #23
                  Bt Doctur
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 471

                  Well, i guess the only other thing is a squirt gun filled with sulfuric or nitric acid.

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                  • #24
                    todd2968
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1674

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                    • #25
                      todd2968
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                      • Mar 2010
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                      • #26
                        Dr.Lou
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 775

                        Originally posted by Bt Doctur
                        Well, i guess the only other thing is a squirt gun filled with sulfuric or nitric acid.
                        Good luck finding a squirt gun that is acid resistant - and that's also illegal. As a chemical weapons, firearms and Taser Instructor. Short of using deadly force, I prefer pepper spray over the Taser for most applications, especially if they are wearing heavy clothing or body armor. I have never had pepper spray fail me - the Eskimos hate it! The only problem with spray is that it takes a couple seconds to really work - doesn't work with a gas mask.
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                        • #27
                          Dr.Lou
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 775

                          Originally posted by Bt Doctur
                          Well, i guess the only other thing is a squirt gun filled with sulfuric or nitric acid.
                          Good luck finding a squirt gun that is acid resistant - and that's also illegal. As a chemical weapons, firearms and Taser Instructor. Short of using deadly force, I prefer pepper spray over the Taser for most applications, especially if they are wearing heavy clothing or body armor. I have never had pepper spray fail me - the Eskimos hate it! The only problem with spray is that it takes a couple seconds to really work - doesn't work with a gas mask.
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