DROS delay odd situation

[Bakerswoe]

And as to the question on the DROS my medical card has expired for that reason. What I do in my home is my business and for all they know I quit when the card expired.

[stix213]

You should delete that last message ^^^^^ It is a federal crime to lie on the 4473 with regard to MJ use.

[littlejake]

This is a directive by AG Harris to dig up all the dirt DOJ can find. I'm guessing they just got the data of the detention -- or, it was the first time an agent took notice.

I don't think this delay is any different than those reported by others -- and I believe it is a "backdoor" regulation by AG Harris to impede the DROS process -- often putting the proof of innocence on the individual.

So, report all delays to the CGF link -- there are smart people at CGF; and if they can show a pattern they will work to stop the practice.

[hawk1]

And as to the question on the DROS my medical card has expired for that reason. What I do in my home is my business and for all they know I quit when the card expired.

This will not end well once/if they connect the dots...

Does California DOJ keep a list? Maybe they do and will use that to deny and/or confiscate previous firearm purchases.

http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/ATFOpenLetter092111.pdf

[FreshTapCoke]

Line e on your 4473 or DROS asks if you are a habitual user. Your medical marijuana card answers that question YES. But you probably answered no. Which means in a nice way you were untruthful in answering the questions.

FreshTapCoke has a hunting license: YES
FreshTapCoke is a habitual hunter: YES?
# of times FreshTapCoke has gone hunting: ZERO

[hawk1]

FreshTapCoke has a hunting license: YES
FreshTapCoke is a habitual hunter: YES?
# of times FreshTapCoke has gone hunting: ZERO

But that's comparing apples to oranges...

[Bakerswoe]

I did not lie my card expired roughly 2 months after the incident which was before I purchased any of the firearms.

I called the doj again today and they couldn't find anything about the delay :/ Shortly after I received a phone call from my dealer saying it was approved.

Thanks again to those who responded!

[ChuangTzu]

Line e on your 4473 or DROS asks if you are a habitual user. Your medical marijuana card answers that question YES. But you probably answered no. Which means in a nice way you were untruthful in answering the questions.

I have many, many prescriptions that I've never filled, ever.

[Bangzoom]

Line e on your 4473 or DROS asks if you are a habitual user. Your medical marijuana card answers that question YES. But you probably answered no. Which means in a nice way you were untruthful in answering the questions.

he would not be a habitual user if he used it "as needed" and that could be 2 times a month or less

[socalbowhunter]

Am I the only one who noticed that he attempted to buy 2 handguns within 30 days of each other? The .22 on 7/15 and the .44 on 8/3 were both handguns right? Were they PPT's? This could have thrown a wrench in it.

[socalbowhunter]

he would not be a habitual user if he used it "as needed" and that could be 2 times a month or less

11(e) Are you an unlawful user or, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, norcotic drug, or any other controlled substance.

Where does it say anything about habitual?

[ArcherDog]

http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/ATFOpenLetter092111.pdf

Therefore, any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed
legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled
substance, and is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition. Such persons should answer
"yes" to question 11 .e. on ATF Form 4473 (August 2008), Firearms Transaction Record, and you may not transfer
firearms or ammunition to them. Further, if you are aware that the potential transferee is in possession of a card
authorizing the possession and use of marijuana under State law, then you have "reasonable cause to believe" that
the person is an unlawful user of a controlled substance. As such, you may not transfer firearms or ammunition to
the person, even if the person answered "no" to question 1 I.e. on ATF Form 4473.

[Josh3239]

So the gist of this thread is that the OP admits on a public forum monitored by the DOJ that while on a restricted license he got busted by CBP for marijuana, has/had a 215 card, lied on a 4473, belives committing crimes in his house is his own business, and bought more than 1 handgun in a 30 day period and is surpised his DROS is on delay?

[Bakerswoe]

Wow lots of assuming going on here. The .22 is a rifle, never said otherwise. As for the medical card if that is what they are tracking for "habitual" users then using the same logic I would no longer be in that category if it expired.

And yes what I do in my house is my business. I don't have to confirm or deny what goes on there. If they want to get a warrant to see if I'm using? more power too them. I would love to see that hold up in court.

[socalbowhunter]

Wow lots of assuming going on here. The .22 is a rifle, never said otherwise.

And yes what I do in my house is my business. I don't have to confirm or deny what goes on there. If they want to get a warrant to see if I'm using? more power too them. I would love to see that hold up in court.

So this is the first I'm hearing back from that and it has been over a year. Lady on the phone says call back in 10 days to see what they decide. Ok... I let her know of my most recent purchase(my first handgun) and how it was ironic I had no trouble there.

Ummm, yeah, pretty safe to assume it was 2 handguns by how you wrote it.

And, no, what you do in your house is NOT your business. If asked a direct question on a federal form, the HONEST answer is the only answer. IMO