CRPA vs. NRA comparison: Could a 4Mil+ member mega-org be easier to have a voice in?

[wildhawker]

It certainly appears that way.

I've attended NRA members meetings before. I've never attended a CRPA member meeting, and neither have you.

It's time that our CRPA patterned itself after our NRA.

-Brandon

[berto]

I smell a conspiracy.

[Californio]

A half dozen Autocrats that want to control Other Peoples Money, it is a common theme nowadays. Needs to change.

[Californio]

So Directors from the CRPA are making personal telephone calls to Members that post on the Petition Page?

[wjc]

This is one of the many reason's I never joined the CRPA.

If they got their **** together I might consider joining.

so far..no joy.

[wildhawker]

So Directors from the CRPA are making personal telephone calls to Members that post on the Petition Page?

They're probably going to try and counter with, "see, all these people didn't even know what they were signing" or some inflammatory thing.

It doesn't matter. there are plenty of sympathetic CRPA members with standing. The board has been noticed of the problems, I gave them a reasonable solution, and the board can either choose to take its duties seriously or try and hide behind more excuses.

-Brandon

[moleculo]

You do realize that the vast majority of gun owners (I'm talking about the legal gun owners) in CA have never heard of the CRPA, right?

On a related note, you want members of CRPA to have a voice. Do you advocate the same view for CGF? I am under the impression that CGF is a donate and don't ask questions and don't give input organization. This sounds like a double standard to me?

I'm not trying to be an ***. I have a limited amount of funds to donate to the cause and choose to donate wisely.

[taperxz]

You do realize that the vast majority of gun owners (I'm talking about the legal gun owners) in CA have never heard of the CRPA, right?

On a related note, you want members of CRPA to have a voice. Do you advocate the same view for CGF? I am under the impression that CGF is a donate and don't ask questions and don't give input organization. This sounds like a double standard to me?

I'm not trying to be an ***. I have a limited amount of funds to donate to the cause and choose to donate wisely.

CRPA and CGF are two differnt kinds of organizations. STRUCTURALLY

There is no PUBLIC membership to CGF. Just like NRA ILA or CRPA foundation
They can't LEGALLY do what you want.

[moleculo]

CRPA and CGF are two differnt kinds of organizations. STRUCTURALLY

There is no PUBLIC membership to CGF. Just like NRA ILA or CRPA foundation
They can't LEGALLY do what you want.

According to CGF own filings in recent court cases, anyone that contributes to CGF is a member of CGF, which is why CGF states that they have standing in several of these cases.

[taperxz]

According to CGF own filings in recent court cases, anyone that contributes to CGF is a member of CGF, which is why CGF states that they have standing in several of these cases.

It's still not the same type of membership like NRA or CRPA. There is no voting of officers or say of how the org can operate. That's the problem most have with CRPA. Members are supposed to have a say. Not like that structurally with CGF. You really need to research what different corps are and how they can work legally.

[wash]

If you don't like what CGF is doing, vote with your wallet.

In my opinion it's the greatest bang for your buck in gun rights and they get most of my gun rights organization dollars.

CRPA gets $0.00

[moleculo]

It's still not the same type of membership like NRA or CRPA. There is no voting of officers or say of how the org can operate. That's the problem most have with CRPA. Members are supposed to have a say. Not like that structurally with CGF. You really need to research what different corps are and how they can work legally.

I understand the various types of corporate entities and understand what is going on here. My question wasn't about corporate structure.

There is no voting of officers or say of how the org can operate. That's the problem most have with CRPA.

Same as CGF?

Members are supposed to have a say. Not like that structurally with CGF.

Umm??? OK cool, but then why the constant posts about how wrong the CRPA is if CGF is structured the same way??

I'm not bashing either the CRPA or CGF with my questions. I'm trying to understand where a contributing voice is most likely to be heard and at least mildly taken seriously.

[taperxz]

I said CRPA and CGF are NOT structured the same way.

[taperxz]

Moleculo, if you don't like what CGF does, don't donate. In fact go ahead and send your money to CRPA so the president can enjoy his shooting competitions, lavish dinners and million dollar staff. Be sure to ask to attend their members meetings also so you can be sure your voice is heard. I'm sure you will be much happier in that room all by yourself.

[moleculo]

I said CRPA and CGF are NOT structured the same way.

I never said they were. Just asking some questions for the OP, which is a member of both organizations.