Just in case you wanted to know.....

[SJgunguy24]

On VTA (public transit) Guns in locked containers are Good To Go! How did I come to find this out?
I was pulled off the train at gun point by 2 deputies, had my ID checked and he ran the serial on my gun. I protested to my gun being run and of course he didn't give 2 sh*ts about what I said.
I have no clue how anybody got the idea I had my gun with me but it doesn't really matter to me because i'm legal and now on my way. It was maybe a 5 minute interaction, Deputy Eng was professional but still caused me to miss my train.

[SanPedroShooter]

How did they know? That would puzzle me. Can you give more details? What kind of container? Was is in your hand? Did you have loaded mags with it?

How about at the stop, did you open the case or anything?

[Intimid8tor]

What kind of case did you have it in?

[SJgunguy24]

How did they know? That would puzzle me. Can you give more details? What kind of container? Was is in your hand? Did you have loaded mags with it?

How about at the stop, did you open the case or anything?

Not sure, I was talking to a girl about personal protection and what works best for self defense.
I use a "fanny pack" with a lock, and of course I have 2 loaded mags.
They ran my ID and the serial on my gun. I protested to the serial but he didn't seem to care. He seemed more pissed off then anything else. They had absolutly nothing and I kept my cool the whole time. When they asked about a CCW I told them when their boss gets tossed in jail for her unconstitutional and subjective ccw policy or the county goes shall issue it'll be easier to get my license. They were aware of the law suit.

[taperxz]

If this really happened why did you open the container for them?

[taperxz]

What I'd also like to know since this is LUCC, did they ask about your destination?

[t0kie]

Gun point? Shut, that's something. Glad you worked it out fine & clear to go.

[SanPedroShooter]

My take is your conversation would have less to do about with it than a locked fanny pack as far as a giveaway. Just speculating. A cop sees a locked fanny pack, and they are all over it.

Did they seem absolutley sure you had a gun in there? Or were they just fishing (with dynamite)? Also, did you know the woman at all? Were there others around?

Just curious.

[SJgunguy24]

I told them my carry gun was in my back pack. I really didn't want this to take any longer than it did. As it was with me cooperating I was done in 5 minutes. I couldv'e been a dick but so could they, and I wouldn't be able to start this thread because I might still be there or on my way to jail for something they made up. It happens, we all know that. The better thought from my point of view is go with the flow and i'll be on my way.

[vantage]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting and great attitude.

M

[Steyr_223]

Interesting..Thanks for the post..Wonder how BART police, Muni or AC transit police would have handled it..

Wondered if they would have acted if you looked "dangerous" .

[The Original Godfather]

I guess since you volunteered info about your gun being in your fanny pack, you relinquished your right to "not consent to search", which is why the deputy didn't care if you consented or not.


And, did they really take you at gunpoint or is that an exaggeration? To my understanding, if you did not draw on them (or brandish your weapon), they can not draw on you...

[wash]

Interesting, today I saw a group of people memorializing Zaim Bojcic who was tasered, shot and killed by SJPD for smoking.

I guess you got lucky today.

The police are really out of control and these kinds of things need to be fixed.

Even in Bosnia the police only tortured Zaim Bojcic, they didn't kill him.

[Army]

I would have handed them the pack, then plugged my ears and closed my eyes and wait for their reaction

[nicoroshi]

Glad it ended well for you brother but sorry that you had to endure that when doing nothing illegal.