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  • #31
    tiki
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1441

    What I'm curious about is the barrel on an AR pistol. AR barrels are threaded, so how does one legally posses an AR pistol with a threaded barrel?
    "The problem with quotes found on the Internet is you have no way of confirming their authenticity."
    -Abraham Lincoln

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    • #32
      morrcarr67
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 14943

      Originally posted by tiki
      What I'm curious about is the barrel on an AR pistol. AR barrels are threaded, so how does one legally posses an AR pistol with a threaded barrel?
      To have an AR pistol you MUST have a mag lock of some kind to comply with CA AW laws. The mag lock make all those evil features harm lees in the eyes of the law.
      Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

      Originally posted by Erion929

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      • #33
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 14943

        Originally posted by Quiet
        Handgun assault weapon laws are different than rifle assault weapon laws.

        A rimfire AR pistol must have a maglock on it.
        If it doesn't it would be an unregsitered assault weapon due to being able to accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip. [PC 30515(a)(4)(D)]


        Penal Code 30515
        (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also means any of the following:
        (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
        (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
        (B) A second handgrip.
        (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
        (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
        (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
        All true and thanks for pointing it out but I believe he was talking about a rifle in the last couple of post leading up to this one.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #34
          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          I live outside of California. I buy a stripped lower receiver. It is legal for me to build it as a pistol. I move to California with this stripped lower receiver that has never been assembled. It is good to go on a federal level, does it pass the sniff test for California's constructive possession laws?

          Also, morrcarr67, I reread my earlier posts and I apologize for lack of clarity and if I put off any attitude. That wasn't my intention.
          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

          - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
          (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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          • #35
            morrcarr67
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 14943

            Originally posted by rromeo;8198726

            I live outside of California. I buy a stripped lower receiver. It is legal for me to build it as a pistol.
            For the most part YES. I don't know all the different states laws but under federal you are GTG.

            Originally posted by rromeo

            I move to California with this stripped lower receiver that has never been assembled. It is good to go on a federal level, does it pass the sniff test for California's constructive possession laws?
            YES.

            Why? because it hasn't gone through CA's DROS system which is what screws us up on building a pistol from a stripped lower we buy in CA. To help cover your butt I would ask the dealer for a copy of the 4473 showing that it has been log out as an "Other".

            Originally posted by rromeo

            Also, morrcarr67, I reread my earlier posts and I apologize for lack of clarity and if I put off any attitude. That wasn't my intention.
            I just looked over your post and see nothing wrong with them. I hope I didn't saying anything to make you feel like you did.

            But, thank you Sir for your concern.
            Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

            Originally posted by Erion929

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            • #36
              Maestro Pistolero
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 3897

              It's not a gun, so have it shipped directly to a friend out of state. Have your friend ship it to the buyer. You'll never be in possession of it.
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              The Second Amendment is the one right that is so fundamental that the inability to exercise it, should the need arise, would render all other rights null and void. Dead people have no rights.
              Magna est veritas et praevalebit

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              • #37
                45acpfan
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 193

                How about, if it is just a barrel with FSB (no receiver attached), is it OK to own it just like that?

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                • #38
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30241

                  Originally posted by 45acpfan
                  How about, if it is just a barrel with FSB (no receiver attached), is it OK to own it just like that?
                  See my first post in this thread.

                  Bottom Line:
                  As long as you do not own any AR type rifles, you can legally possess the less than 16" barrel.
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