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  • thehummerguy
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 463

    .50 M2 AW-Can it be sold in Calif?

    I have an M2 .50 that is Registred as an AW, did this years ago in response to the Law. Once again I am told the M2 .50 is Legal In calif, contrary to my calls to DOJ who says otherwise and No dealers outside the State who will ship this typoe of gubn into the state.
    I am wanting to sell this gun now, but cannot here in this state due to it's registration status. One thought was to sell it outside the state and then if Legal, ship it back in to a new Buyer....But only if Legal.

    Anyone have any ideas? or just get rid of it outside the state and be done with it.
  • #2
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    • Oct 2005
    • 44627

    Registered a/ws can be sold only to dealers inside CA, and then only to the ones specially licensed.

    Sad as it is to see one go, out of state looks like the better choice.
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    • #3
      mrkubota
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1372

      Originally posted by thehummerguy
      I have an M2 .50 that is Registred as an AW, did this years ago in response to the Law. Once again I am told the M2 .50 is Legal In calif, contrary to my calls to DOJ who says otherwise and No dealers outside the State who will ship this typoe of gubn into the state.
      I am wanting to sell this gun now, but cannot here in this state due to it's registration status. One thought was to sell it outside the state and then if Legal, ship it back in to a new Buyer....But only if Legal.

      Anyone have any ideas? or just get rid of it outside the state and be done with it.
      You must also use a CA recognized 'assault' weapon FFL to do the advertising and transfer to sell it out ot state as well.
      If possible, you can also take the gun out of state yourself to do the transfer.

      Another option is to remove the RHSP (the 'registered' part of the M2) and sell the rest as a parts kit.

      You may also have the M2 removed from the registration list, then sell it as you please.

      I sold my homebuilt/registered M2HB through my local dealer:
      Al Burghard - res05g5b@verizon.net
      Whole deal went very smoothly. Drop him a line for any questions.

      Too, Michael from EBR Works here in CalGuns can probably guide through the process as well: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/member.php?u=14299

      //Ben

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      • #4
        CHS
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        • Jan 2008
        • 11338

        You would have to un-register it first. Then it could be sold to anyone in California over the age of 21.
        Please read the Calguns Wiki
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        • #5
          ptoguy2002
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 3863

          A poor little puppy dies every time somebody gets rid of a registered gun....and the anti's do a little dance....
          Option: Remove the barrel (so it is no longer a 50BMG). De-register it with the DOJ, wait for confirmation, and then sell as you please, in state or out. If it doesn't have the barrel, it isn't chambered for 50BMG. If a buyer wants to put the barrel back on, that is up to him after he's received the body back after 10 days waiting period. Yes, technically since it isn't a shoulder fired weapon, it isn't a rifle, therefore it isn't banned. But by selling without the barrel, you avoid this aggressively legal interpretation. And if you de-register it, no need to go through an FFL with an AW permit if you sell out of state.
          Option: If the gun is homebuilt, the value of the gun is probably no more than that of the kit it is built with. Demil the right side plate, and sell the kit. Please do not do this if you have a factory gun. Then TWO puppies will die (and you will lose money).
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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44092

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            • #7
              Bhobbs
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 11847

              Can't you de reg it and sell it in state? It isn't a .50 BMG rifle so the ban doesn't affect it.

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              • #8
                CHS
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                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                Originally posted by Bhobbs
                Can't you de reg it and sell it in state? It isn't a .50 BMG rifle so the ban doesn't affect it.
                Yes.
                Please read the Calguns Wiki
                Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                • #9
                  dantodd
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9360

                  I thought only RIFLES in .50 BMG require registration. You should be able to de-reg and sell to anyone you like.
                  Last edited by dantodd; 12-24-2011, 6:47 AM.
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                  • #10
                    cdtx2001
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 6630

                    De-reg it and sell it to me!!!!!

                    I've always wanted an M2.

                    BTW, hindsight is always 20/20 and it never should have been registered in the first place as it isn't a rifle.
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                    • #11
                      FXR
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 500

                      Originally posted by Bhobbs
                      Can't you de reg it and sell it in state? It isn't a .50 BMG rifle so the ban doesn't affect it.
                      This - if it's not configured as a rifle it's not banned by features and should never have been registered.
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                      • #12
                        thehummerguy
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 463

                        First of all, let me answer the question about the fact that I registred it in the first place to all those folks who say I didn't need too...

                        When this law came down it was IMHO as Vague today as it was then, I have talked to DOJ Numerous times on this issue, including getting De-Reg'd, Yes, it is very easy to say "DE-Reg" it, have any of you actually tried?
                        DOJ Suks for the lack of a better word, they are as clear as Mud.

                        Let me ask you guy's a Question, Would you sacrifice a 10k investment over a simple registration? Not Me, at the time it was pretty clear, .50 cal's
                        had to be registred, didn't really see any way around it other then non-complicance. My thought was to just sell it out of state, which is what will most likely happen. Don't get me wrong folks, I dispise registration, but when you have as many AW's registred as I do....1 more ain't gonna make a Diff, and I don't need some over zealous Cop or DOJ guy taking everything for the
                        sake of 1 un-registred.
                        If Someone has Personally had an AW "De-Reg"...please speak up, I have other guns that got Registred as well,I had already contacted DOJ on getting them Dereg'd...but again, we are talking about at least a year they told me.

                        I will contact EBR works as well....thanks Fellas

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                        • #13
                          thehummerguy
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 463

                          Just got off the Phone with DOJ, They have "as they put it" Never had a Request to De-Reg a .50 cal of any kind...yes, that was the answer. Soooo, they assume it is the same a De-Reg'ing" a AW, that is a Low priority and takes about 6-9mos....LOL, gotta love this state.

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                          • #14
                            timdps
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 3445

                            In support of thehummerguy, the M2HB, "not a rifle" interpretation the law is a fairly recent development (last three years or so). Even though the law has not changed, the CalGuns perception of the law has changed since 2005. I doubt that anyone on CalGuns would have recommended NOT registering it in 2005.

                            Tim

                            Originally posted by thehummerguy
                            First of all, let me answer the question about the fact that I registred it in the first place to all those folks who say I didn't need too...

                            When this law came down it was IMHO as Vague today as it was then, I have talked to DOJ Numerous times on this issue, including getting De-Reg'd, Yes, it is very easy to say "DE-Reg" it, have any of you actually tried?
                            DOJ Suks for the lack of a better word, they are as clear as Mud.

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                            • #15
                              ke6guj
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by timdps
                              In support of thehummerguy, the M2HB, "not a rifle" interpretation the law is a fairly recent development (last three years or so). Even though the law has not changed, the CalGuns perception of the law has changed since 2005. I doubt that anyone on CalGuns would have recommended NOT registering it in 2005.

                              Tim


                              I remember people trying to locate M2HB 100% RH sideplates before the deadline so they could register them as AWs. Thats what the perception of the law was back then.
                              Jack



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                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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