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  • #16
    ivsamhell
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 2623

    Originally posted by turbomkt
    The exemption is because they are exclusively "demonstration" devices. They may only be taken to/from class or competition. Having them any other time makes it a criminal offense.
    whats the PC?
    *anyone could be typing these messages, and probably not while under oath.

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    • #17
      Kauf
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 459

      So i guess the best thing for all of you who own one of these grenade's is to call your lawyer and arrange for the surrender of what ammounts to an approx. 2lbs. steel paperweight-I mean "Deadly explosive device"- or you face a felony
      WTB M2 Ball .30-06

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      • #18
        Seesm
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2008
        • 7812

        I was told if you plugged the bottom hole with clear epoxy or something similar it was legal to own one that has the primer already pushed and it is obviously empty.

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        • #20
          MustangGreg66
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 981

          I used to have one when I was a kid. Probably got it at a gunshow. I remember throwing it around the yard playing cops and robbers I never had a clue it wasn't legal. I'm pretty sure it got thrown in the trash a long time ago. It got all banged up landing a few time on the cement in the yard so didn't look very good anymore haha.

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          • #21
            Seesm
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2008
            • 7812

            Originally posted by BigFatGuy
            That's absurd... an empty grenade is demonstrably empty and safe. A filled grenade is not.
            And yet I have read it in more than one place.. It's on the "INTERWEBS" so it HAS to be TRUE... I did not state it more than I heard that.. We are in CA and lots of dumb laws anbd even dumber law makers... Anyway.. Carry on...

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            • #22
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34725

              i want a crate of live pineapple grenades. that would be sooo cool

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              • #23
                MasterYong
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 2724

                Originally posted by sreiter
                certified school and instructors are exempt re:nunchakas
                I'm going to have to echo others: what's the PC?

                People keep saying nunchuku are legal if you're in a martial arts program. I'd like to see the exemption.
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                • #24
                  gun toting monkeyboy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 6820

                  The police get calls like that fairly often. Somebody dies, and their family finds all kinds of thinks that they weren't supposed to have. Guns, explosives, rockets, flamethowers. We, on a whole, are a fairly paranoid and psychotic race. If somebody tells us that we aren't supposed to have something, there will ALWAYS be a few people who just HAVE to go out and get/make/steal whatever it is, and squirrel it away against the chance that they might need it someday. I knew a guy that took a crate of frag grenades with him when he left the marines back in the 1970s. He kept them for several years until he found out that the Corps was starting to go through its records, and interview people who might have had access to the armory during that time period. He went out and dumped them in the ocean. I have no idea why he thought he might need them, but as I said, there are always those people.

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                  Originally posted by aplinker
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                  • #25
                    G-forceJunkie
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 6191

                    Key in bold. Fill your felony grenade with something solid ie cement, epoxy, etc and bingo, its legal. It actually makes somewhat logical sence. An empty grenade is about 1/4 pound of gunpowder and 60 seconds away from becoming usable. Filled solid, not so much.
                    Originally posted by EBR Works
                    12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
                    is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
                    or in the state prison:
                    (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
                    state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
                    lends, or possesses any ... metal military practice
                    handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade...

                    (4)...However, a first offense involving any metal military practice
                    handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade shall be punishable only as
                    an infraction unless the offender is an active participant in a
                    criminal street gang as defined in the Street Terrorism and
                    Enforcement and Prevention Act (Chapter 11 (commencing with Section
                    186.20) of Title 7 of Part 1).

                    (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:..

                    (15) Any plastic toy handgrenade, or any metal military practice
                    handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade that is a relic, curio,
                    memorabilia, or display item, that is filled with a permanent inert
                    substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in a manner that
                    prevents ready modification for use as a grenade
                    .

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                    • #26
                      Cokebottle
                      Señor Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32373

                      Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                      That's absurd... an empty grenade is demonstrably empty and safe. A filled grenade is not.
                      But an empty grenade can be refilled.

                      Empty grenade + can of powder = Constructive possession of a destructive device.
                      - Rich

                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                      • #27
                        Peter.Steele
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 7351

                        Originally posted by MasterYong
                        I'm going to have to echo others: what's the PC?

                        People keep saying nunchuku are legal if you're in a martial arts program. I'd like to see the exemption.


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                        • #28
                          ke6guj
                          Moderator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23725

                          Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                          Click here, then the first link afterwards.
                          here is the PC regarding nunchucks.
                          12020(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
                          is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
                          or in the state prison:
                          (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
                          state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
                          lends, or possesses .... any nunchaku,

                          (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
                          (3) The possession of a nunchaku on the premises of a school which
                          holds a regulatory or business license and teaches the arts of
                          self-defense.
                          (4) The manufacture of a nunchaku for sale to, or the sale of a
                          nunchaku to, a school which holds a regulatory or business license
                          and teaches the arts of self-defense.
                          I don't see an exemption for the students to possess nunchucks away from the dojo at any time.


                          Originally posted by turbomkt
                          The exemption is because they are exclusively "demonstration" devices. They may only be taken to/from class or competition. Having them any other time makes it a criminal offense.
                          where is this exemption that allows them to be taken to/from class?
                          Jack



                          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

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                          • #29
                            turbomkt
                            Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 109

                            Originally posted by ke6guj
                            here is the PC regarding nunchucks.I don't see an exemption for the students to possess nunchucks away from the dojo at any time.



                            where is this exemption that allows them to be taken to/from class?
                            Sorry...no idea after reading the PC. Looks like my school gets it half right.

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                            • #30
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by turbomkt
                              Sorry...no idea after reading the PC. Looks like my school gets it half right.
                              and creates felons of parents and students
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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