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  • #46
    safewaysecurity
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2010
    • 6166

    Originally posted by Herodotus
    Some would suggest that a counter protest could be beneficial to getting our message out. Our numbers would surely be greater if organized properly. Perhaps groups of people standing in solidarity with their tactical high-lumens flashlights aglow would surely eclipse the candle holders?
    Not a counter protest. Stand in the same crowd but hold up pro self-defense signs.
    Originally posted by cudakidd
    I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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    • #47
      safewaysecurity
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2010
      • 6166

      Originally posted by Aldemar
      In 2009, the last year there is data available, there were 38,500 deaths attributable to vehicles. Assuming there are the same number of vehicles as guns, vehicles seem to be approximately 3 times more dangerous. In actuality, there are probably more guns than vehicles.
      Their argument would be that people don't use their guns as much as they use their cars and that also we have registration and licensing and insurance for driving a vehicle and that the same should at least apply to guns.
      Originally posted by cudakidd
      I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
      ^

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      • #48
        J.S.Riesch
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 528

        Originally posted by Sam
        This is discriminatory! Why do they only care about people that were killed by other people using guns? What about people who were killed by other people with knives, cars or wet noodles? We should sue them for being discriminatory!

        In seriousness, the Brady Campaign is weak. Their total YouTube video uploads are just south of 500,000. Hickok45's total YouTube video uploads are just above 44 million.
        THIS
        Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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        • #49
          Aldemar
          On Everyone's Ignore List
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2007
          • 4707

          Originally posted by safewaysecurity
          Their argument would be that people don't use their guns as much as they use their cars and that also we have registration and licensing and insurance for driving a vehicle and that the same should at least apply to guns.

          This just proves that your average gun owner is infinitely more careful when using their toys than your average driver. Gun related incidents are generally deliberate, not accidents as in the automotive world.

          Edit: You can make numbers say just about anything.....let's not talk just about the guns, I wonder how many hundreds of millions or rounds of ammunition are expended each year (I try to do my part)?? Each round has the capability of causing damage. If you factor that in, it could be argued that guns are one of the safest things in America.
          Last edited by Aldemar; 12-19-2011, 3:59 PM.
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          • #50
            jgraham7897
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 682

            Originally posted by Aldemar
            This just proves that your average gun owner is infinitely more careful when using their toys than your average driver. Gun related incidents are generally deliberate, not accidents as in the automotive world.

            Edit: You can make numbers say just about anything.....let's not talk just about the guns, I wonder how many hundreds of millions or rounds of ammunition are expended each year (I try to do my part)?? Each round has the capability of causing damage. If you factor that in, it could be argued that guns are one of the safest things in America.
            I like your math.

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            • #51
              Firemark
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 185

              Originally posted by safewaysecurity
              Not a counter protest. Stand in the same crowd but hold up pro self-defense signs.
              even better hold up your tactical flahlights on strobe, or ultra high beam 180+ lumens or higher. Shine the light of truth on self defense and disarmament
              "Gun owners in California in 2011 are like black people in the south in 1955. If you don't understand that then your concepts of fighting for gun rights is just tilting at windmills." Gene Hoffman.

              "Why do you need to carry a gun?" ...Because it not a Bill of Needs, its a Bill of Rights!!

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              • #52
                boxbro
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 790

                Originally posted by joefreas
                90% of all statistics are completely incorrect.
                60% of the time they are correct every time.
                "Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction....."

                "The Character of Man," Mark Twain's Autobiography

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                • #53
                  pTa
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1045

                  Originally posted by TwoAsoapbox
                  What I love is that the Brady crew and the main stream media never seem to mention stories of people using their guns to effectively protect themselves and their loved ones against criminals. I would venture to say that the number of lives saved by guns might just out weigh the number of lives wrongfully taken.

                  The "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" needs to stop focusing on the "Gun" part of their title and more on the "Violence" part.
                  The number of lives saved by the presence of a firearm FAR outn umber the number of lives lost where firearms are involved/ by conservative estimatse at least 10:1
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                  • #54
                    SilverBulletZ06
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 222

                    Originally posted by pTa
                    The number of lives saved by the presence of a firearm FAR outn umber the number of lives lost where firearms are involved/ by conservative estimatse at least 10:1
                    FBI figures show 15:1.

                    Percentage of firearms used in total crime (including suicides) is about 0.003%, assuming each crime used a different gun.

                    More then half the homicides are drug and gang related.

                    Women's chances of stopping rape or sexual assault increase 2700% with a firearm.

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                    • #55
                      ShootinMedic
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 826

                      Originally posted by joefreas
                      90% of all statistics are completely incorrect.
                      And 86% of all internet statistics are made up on the spot.

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                      Originally posted by Untamed1972
                      ... the POV of courts and legislators needs to be....if an item can have a lawful purpose then you can't criminalize the item, you can only criminalize unlawful acts committed with that lawful item.

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                      • #56
                        ryno066
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1274

                        How many of the people killed with guns are gang members?

                        Also If i light a gun candle is it pro gun or anti gun?

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                        • #57
                          jamesob
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4821

                          i'll light a candle only to make my room smell like pumpkin pie.

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                          • #58
                            Window_Seat
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3533



                            Here's their candle-light vigil...

                            Erik.

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                            • #59
                              oni.dori
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1007

                              They are dancing in the blood of the Tucson victims...AGAIN...what's new and improved about that? Also, Dennis doesn't look overtly motivated or enthusiastic about what he is doing. He has less passion in his voice than any other of their officials I have seen to date.
                              Originally posted by 383green
                              Stockpiling ammunition is like investing in a 401k that allows you to make withdrawals in the form of kinetic energy.
                              Originally posted by oaklander
                              I will NOT be a part of a civil rights movement which contains its own version of "P.C."
                              5-23-11 The day the Sleeping Giant awoke.

                              "...What in the world is a moderate interpretation of a constitutional text? Halfway between what it says and what we'd like it to say?"
                              -A. Scalia 2005

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                              • #60
                                TwoAsoapbox
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 713

                                Originally posted by boxbro
                                60% of the time they are correct every time.
                                Hahaha....I must say, that smells like pure gasoline.
                                "The pen is mightier than the sword....until someone tries to take your pen away." -RS

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