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  • pennys dad
    Arizona Ex-Pat
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2008
    • 5984

    NRA/CRPAF LAWSUIT FORCES CITY OF LOS ANGELES TO TURNOVER DOCUMENTS ON ISSUANCE of LTC

    Just got this in an email and thought I would share it.

    NRA/CRPAF LAWSUIT FORCES CITY OF LOS ANGELES TO TURNOVER DOCUMENTS ON ISSUANCE OF LICENSES TO CARRY FIREARMS

    In a victory for self-defense civil right activists, a Los Angeles Superior Court Judge has ordered the City of Los Angeles to produce documents relating to the LAPD’s policies and procedures for processing applications for a license to carry a concealed firearm.

    In 1992 and 1994, the City’s unlawful refusal to properly process CCW applications was challenged in two lawsuits. To settle the suits, LAPD agreed to a court ordered application processing procedure. The LAPD agreed to a definition of "good cause" that was articulated in the settlement, and agreed that all citizens who request a CCW permit application would be provided a CCW application at any LAPD station house, along with a copy of the LAPD’s procedure for handling the application, and the procedures for appealing the denial of a CCW application. The settlements also resulted in the establishment of a Citizens Advisory Review Panel, made up of appointed citizens who would review CCW applications denied by the LAPD and make recommendations regarding whether the Chief should reverse the denial.

    A memorandum discussing these suits is posted here.

    The LAPD has repeatedly failed to honor its legal obligations under the settlements. It has not made CCW applications and a written copy of the CCW policy and appeal process available at all station houses. And it has ignored the recommendations of the Citizens Advisory Review Panel and has instead enacted a de facto policy of again issuing no CCWs, despite whatever showing of good cause the applicants might make.

    To rectify this situation two new legal actions, financed by NRA and CRPAF through their Legal Action Project, were filed.

    The first is a motion to enforce the cour’'s old order in the 1994 case, Assenza v. City of Los Angeles. Some of the original plaintiffs from that Assenza case seek to force the LAPD to reinstate its agreed-to policy of providing applications and copies of its written policy at all LAPD station houses. In support of its motion, NRA grassroots activist citizens were recruited to investigate the LAPD’s practices and submitted declarations about their recent attempts to get CCW applications. They were frustrated by uncooperative officers at individual station houses, all of whom had a complete lack of understanding of the LAPD’s application process, and who in almost all instances could not provide a CCW application to the requesting citizen, much less a copy of the LAPD’s written policy. Perhaps most egregiously, LAPD officers bluntly told citizens that unless they were celebrities, they shouldn’t even bother filling out the CCW application because they would be denied a CCW as a matter of LAPD policy.

    The second recent legal action is a new lawsuit, Davis v. City of Los Angeles. The nine plaintiffs in this new lawsuit, some of whom have had CCW applications pending and unresolved with the LAPD for years, have been subjected to a litany of abuses by LAPD in its handling of their CCW applications relating to LAPD’s continued failure to comply with the original Assenza judgment. These abuses include not only the failures to provide applications and copies of the written policies at LAPD station houses, but also refusals to timely consider their applications, failures to respond to inquiries regarding the status of applications, failures to acknowledge the availability of the Citizens Advisory Review Panel as a method of appealing denial, and failure to give any weight to recommendations by the Citizens Advisory Review Panel.

    As part of the Davis lawsuit, NRA/CRPA sought documents relating to the Chief Charlie Beck’s review of the recommendations of the Citizens Advisory Review Panel, documents showing any evaluation, assessment, and decisions about the positive recommendations of the Citizens Advisory Review Panel, and documents relating to the current City and County of LA residents with active CCW licenses issued by Chief Charlie Beck. The City refused to turn them over. So the Court was asked to intervene.

    In ordering the City to produce the documents, the Court noted that the City’s attempt to justify its refusal to turn them over consisted of mere "boilerplate objections," some of which were not made "in good faith."

    We’ll keep you posted as the case develops.

    Seventeen years ago the NRA and CRPA joined forces to fight local gun bans being written and pushed in California by the gun ban lobby. Their coordinated efforts became the NRA/CRPA "Local Ordinance Project" (LOP) - a statewide campaign to fight ill conceived local efforts at gun control and educate politicians about available programs that are effective in reducing accidents and violence without infringing on the rights of law-abiding gun owners. The NRA/CRPA LOP has had tremendous success in beating back most of these anti-self-defense proposals.

    In addition to fighting local gun bans, for decades the NRA has been litigating dozens of cases in California courts to promote the right to self-defense and the Second Amendment. In the post Heller and McDonald legal environment, NRA and CRPA Foundation have formed the NRA/CRPA Foundation Legal Action Project (LAP), a joint venture to pro-actively strike down ill-conceived gun control laws and ordinances and advance the rights of firearms owners, specifically in California. Sometimes, success is more likely when LAP’s litigation efforts are kept low profile, so the details of every lawsuit are not always released. To see a partial list of the LAP’s recent accomplishments, or to contribute to the NRA or to the NRA / CRPAF LAP and support this and similar Second Amendment cases, visit www.nraila.com and www.crpafoundation.org.
    Pennys Dad

    Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.
  • #2
    glbtrottr
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 3551

    This decision makes my heart sing with glee.

    Pure glee.
    On hold....

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    • #3
      Paladin
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2005
      • 12383

      The thumb screws are slowly being turned....
      240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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      • #4
        Mr Blu
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 741

        This is amazing news. This will most definitely be used in the Scocca v Smith case, as a precedent that local authorities cannot deny court rulings and must follow the law.

        I await the day that Santa Clara County becomes a shall issue, on the way to California becoming a shall issue.
        Originally posted by 0321jarhead
        Accuracy is not always the rifle, its the nut behind the stock.
        "Use the shiny toys when you have them, but never, ever forget how to do it by hand." --- SGT. David Sillick A. Co. 4-64 AR, 3ID

        Everything is METTT-C

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        • #5
          Yugo
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 8353

          sigpic

          Originally posted by WAMO556
          Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

          Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

          Umm yeah!!!!!

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          • #6
            VW*Mike
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1261

            enough grains of sand make a dune. Enough dunes, make a desert...... incremental progress is still progress, not going backwards.

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            • #7
              CCWFacts
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2007
              • 6168

              Awesome! It makes me realize I need to order some more "steamroller roast". Mmm, the best way to start your day.

              Wake up and smell the Calguns coffee, California!



              I presume that these documents are basically like a discovery. They'll go through these and find some smoking gun like a hand-written note that says "celebrity" on a file that got approved, and then use that as a basis for further bludgeoning.
              Last edited by CCWFacts; 12-16-2011, 6:55 PM.
              "Weakness is provocative."
              Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

              Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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              • #8
                taperxz
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2010
                • 19395

                Originally posted by CCWFacts
                Awesome! It makes me realize I need to order some more "steamroller roast". Mmm, the best way to start your day.

                Wake up and smell the Calguns coffee, California!



                I presume that these documents are basically like a discovery. They'll go through these and find some smoking gun like a hand-written note that says "celebrity" on a file that got approved, and then use that as a basis for further bludgeoning.

                Calguns is not a part of this. just saying

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                • #9
                  CCWFacts
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 6168

                  Originally posted by taperxz
                  Calguns is not a part of this. just saying
                  Yes, good point, you are right. I was referring to the larger community of California's gun rights activists, forum members, etc, not the Calguns Foundation itself.
                  "Weakness is provocative."
                  Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                  Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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                  • #10
                    BigDogatPlay
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7362

                    I cheered when the e-mail alert came into my box this afternoon.... this is a major step forward in smacking down a very recalcitrant public agency. A win here could go a long way to kicking down doors in a number of other locales around the state.

                    Good job Michel & Associates and thank you NRA / CRPAF.
                    -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                    Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                    • #11
                      jello2594
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 384

                      Just wanted to bring up this video... The amazing law firm of Michel & Associates used to be Trutanich & Michel. So many of us were so happy when Carmen Trutanich became elected as City Attorney for Los Angeles. Finally, we got a good guy who will help us, right?

                      WRONG!!!



                      Michel & Associates is still a good guy.. Don't get me wrong there.
                      [SIGPIC

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                      • #12
                        yellowfin
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 8371

                        We here in Narnia eagerly await the outcome of this case, hoping it will be much swifter than the other 40-50 lawsuits in progress.
                        "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                        Originally posted by indiandave
                        In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                        Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                        • #13
                          Fjold
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 22771

                          Originally posted by jello2594
                          Just wanted to bring up this video... The amazing law firm of Michel & Associates used to be Trutanich & Michel. So many of us were so happy when Carmen Trutanich became elected as City Attorney for Los Angeles. Finally, we got a good guy who will help us, right?

                          WRONG!!!



                          Michel & Associates is still a good guy.. Don't get me wrong there.
                          Unfortunately too many of us drank the Kool Aid.
                          Frank

                          One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                          Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                          • #14
                            Gray Peterson
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 5817

                            Originally posted by Fjold
                            Unfortunately too many of us drank the Kool Aid.
                            Nuch is a douche, but Jack Weiss was much worse for us in numerous ways.

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                            • #15
                              TwoAsoapbox
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 713

                              I'll take any progress against gun control that I can get. Well done NRA/CRPA!
                              "The pen is mightier than the sword....until someone tries to take your pen away." -RS

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