Recall Mayor Quan of Oakland!

[oaklander]

And looks have exactly WHAT to do with ability to perform the job of Mayor?

We are better than such remarks. This is a public forum. Those are the tactics of losers and those who are on the wrong side of history. We are neither.

Correct!!!

Next thing folks will say is that people with tats should not run!

That would be tragic!!!



Mayor Quan is a nice person, and I think she is trying to do the right thing. I had wanted our group to reach out to her, because I had word this was going to happen. All she needs to do is to listen to people outside of her circle. But I think it's too late.

[GrayWolf09]

Mayor Quan is a nice person, and I think she is trying to do the right thing. I had wanted our group to reach out to her, because I had word this was going to happen. All she needs to do is to listen to people outside of her circle. But I think it's too late.

She sure did not win any points for "conveniently" being out of town when the police rousted the Occupy Oakland protestors. Or for rousting them in the first place for that matter.

It seems to indicate a serious lack of political awareness.

[anthonyca]

But, but doesn't Oakland have gun control?? So why all the crime?

I heard her give a radio interview about a night club shooting. I don't know what kind of weapon was used but when she was asked what caused the shooting, she used the time to blame the sunset of the federal assault weapons ban.

[G60]

Many supporters of the occupy wall street movement are calling for her resignation tonight as well.

[oaklander]

I heard her give a radio interview about a night club shooting. I don't know what kind of weapon was used but when she was asked what caused the shooting, she used the time to blame the sunset of the federal assault weapons ban.

She has lost touch. Right now, she is likely only listening to a few people. I have never ever heard of any relationship between ANY ban, and crime. There is simply no data to even show a connection.

You can even ask our opposition.

When I say "nice," I mean well-meaning. But the road to. . .


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

[Falconis]

She has lost touch. Right now, she is likely only listening to a few people. I have never ever heard of any relationship between ANY ban, and crime. There is simply no data to even show a connection.

You can even ask our opposition.

When I say "nice," I mean well-meaning. But the road to. . .


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

You assume she was actually ever in touch to begin with.

[oaklander]

LOL, I think I have been banned from the OPOA Facebook page!

I posted one thing saying that I was looking forward to working WITH rank and file. I guess Dom is afraid of me?

What would he hilarious at this point would be if I visibly started doing 2A outreach to OWS and ACLU, and a certain attorney OPD does not like.

;-)

The dynamic in Oakland is exactly this:

You will start to see common-sense changes. I am not going to do anything dumb, but it makes sense to listen to a constituency. My general constituency at this point is East Oakland. Two kind of powerful groups (which used to be oppposed) both seem to like me, and I like them. I am just going to keep repeating this, and do exactly what I did for gun rights (align, align, align).

I am not messing around here, and I am NOT doing this for me. I want a safer Oakland, and I am going to make that happen. The mere fact that I am now involved is making people nervous, and it should. Oakland is being run like a prison, and there are many hard-working, and just generally GOOD PEOPLE who are getting it in the rear because certain politicians and groups are viewing East Oakland as the problem, when it is really a solution.

I will expect Dom to return my call.


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

[OleCuss]

Correct!!!

. . . people with tats on their hands/fingers should not run!
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Fixored!



Seriously, though, it sounds like you're doing great work. What you post gives me hope for Oakland and (along with the demise of Al Davis) gives me more respect for the place.

[oaklander]

Fixored!



Seriously, though, it sounds like you're doing great work. What you post gives me hope for Oakland and (along with the demise of Al Davis) gives me more respect for the place.

There are some really good folks here. I have met both men and women who have devoted their lives to helping people escape addiction, poverty, and crime. Part of the problem is city government. But elections are a *****. And I got in early enough to influence things.


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

[OleCuss]

There are some really good folks here. I have met both men and women who have devoted their lives to helping people escape addiction, poverty, and crime. Part of the problem is city government. But elections are a *****. And I got in early enough to influence things.


Sent from my brain, to yours. . .

It really is a good feeling to be a part of a group, process which is working to better their community.

I'm betting you will be less active on RKBA matters in the future - but if you can advance freedom in Oakland that is a huge contribution to the civil rights of us all and will even help out the RKBA even though that is not the focus.

[paul0660]

People in flat part are libertarian God and county freedom folks

Libertarian and freedom loving as long as the .gov check shows up.

I think Quan should be given more rope. She will use it.

[oaklander]

Libertarian and freedom loving as long as the .gov check shows up.

I think Quan should be given more rope. She will use it.

Simply not true Paul. My church has over 7000 people, and we do all of this ourselves. You know how CGF works? Donations.

You know how our church works? Donations.

This is the libertarian part that I was talking about. There ARE certainly folks here who have to rely on government programs. And there are literally a THOUSANDS OF GOOD PEOPLE HERE, in churches, community groups, business groups, etc. who are working to create more jobs and opportunities. And WE are doing this WITHOUT government money.

Again, Paul666 - please stay out of my posts. You make yourself look mean and foolish every time you opine on this stuff.

Let me put it another way. . .

I hold a law degree, and part of what I studied in law school was this exact issue. This stuff was my essential minor in undergrad. I have lived in diverse areas most of my life. I know this stuff from BOTH perspectives (book stuff and real stuff). You know nothing, other than what you read on blogs. I just trimmed my toenails, and those clippings even know more than you do. Get my point, son?

[oaklander]

It really is a good feeling to be a part of a group, process which is working to better their community.

I'm betting you will be less active on RKBA matters in the future - but if you can advance freedom in Oakland that is a huge contribution to the civil rights of us all and will even help out the RKBA even though that is not the focus.

That is exactly what I am doing. RKBA is totally NOT focus. What is focus is getting city hall (and others) to address the real issues. Doing "anti-gun" stuff (like outlawing gun shops in a town that hasn't had a real one in more than a decade) is pure political THEATER. And it's this sort of feel-good BS which has diverted folks away from the real issue.

Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.

We have tens of thousands of folks here, in East Oakland - who are WAY into technology. I know that is a revelation to many folks - but our community has taken to ALL forms of social media technology. We have really good home-grown expertise on many things that Silicon Valley is hiring folks from other countries to do.

The problem here is that many people have just written off East Oakland. That is morally wrong, and economically wrong. There is so much good talent here - but there are obstacles. One of them is violent crime (which prevents companies from locating here). Another is the myriad of laws and regulations that Oakland seems to like to pass on every fricken issue.

Lao Tzu was the original political ninja (his book was actually a treatise on how to run a country). He said: "there are too many laws, when all you need to do is hold tight to the center."

The factionalism here is intense. And I seriously think I am stupid and dumb enough to cut through some of that. I will do it by doing the only thing I know how, just getting folks to see that we are all really on the same side.

That is why the OPOA thing was so amusing. I am literally in a position RIGHT NOW (like today) to do something that will help OPD rank and file. But if I do not have OPOA support - I can't really do it effectively.

I post about .05 percent of what I am doing on this forum, since I am actually not as stupid as I appear!!!

ROFL

So, when I mention certain things, there are certain reasons. . .

[CCWFacts]

People in flat part are libertarian God and county freedom folks (like me and like most of you).

Libertarian and freedom loving as long as the .gov check shows up.

Oaklander, I love what you're doing but I think Paul is right. They are libertarian in the sense of wanting to be left alone, but so so many people in Oakland are absolutely dependent on their EBTs / Section 8 / etc. A curious psychological phenomenon exists that people who are reliant on EBTs often think they are entitled to the money, that it's "their" money somehow, and don't see the connection between that money and government budgets and taxpayers and overall government reach and power. They come to think of EBT funds the way I think of funds in my checking account: it's my money, I have a right to it, keep your hands off it!

That's why those from Oakland's flats might express the self-reliant libertarian views, when at the same time, their sustenance is totally reliant on a flow of taxpayer dollars. "F the police but I better get my EBT!"

You can see similar problems in the whole "Occupy" movement. They make a big point of excluding government authority from their camps, they talk about making a new society outside the control of the evil government, and sure do sound libertarian, but all their articulated demands are for much bigger government, higher taxes, more regulation (minimum wage), more government dependence (welfare, make-work jobs).

[GrayWolf09]

Oaklander, I love what you're doing but I think Paul is right. They are libertarian in the sense of wanting to be left alone, but so so many people in Oakland are absolutely dependent on their EBTs / Section 8 / etc. A curious psychological phenomenon exists that people who are reliant on EBTs often think they are entitled to the money, that it's "their" money somehow, and don't see the connection between that money and government budgets and taxpayers and overall government reach and power. They come to think of EBT funds the way I think of funds in my checking account: it's my money, I have a right to it, keep your hands off it!

That's why those from Oakland's flats might express the self-reliant libertarian views, when at the same time, their sustenance is totally reliant on a flow of taxpayer dollars. "F the police but I better get my EBT!"

You can see similar problems in the whole "Occupy" movement. They make a big point of excluding government authority from their camps, they talk about making a new society outside the control of the evil government, and sure do sound libertarian, but all their articulated demands are for much bigger government, higher taxes, more regulation (minimum wage), more government dependence (welfare, make-work jobs).

Were you talking about the people from Oakland flats? I thought you were talking about the bankers.

What the occupy movement is protesting is that in the huge economic crisis both the banks and homeowners were in trouble economically. One group got bailed out the other got sold out. Guess which group the people from the Oakland flats fall into?