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  • CCWFacts
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 6168

    Recall Mayor Quan of Oakland!

    Something I never dreamed would be possible: Residents are mounting a recall effort against Mayor Quan because crime in Oakland is out of control:

    A group of Oakland residents filed a petition today declaring their intent to recall Mayor Jean Quan, saying she has failed to provide strong leadership for the city, particularly on crime and the development of the former Oakland Army Base.
    I thought that in the whacked-out "logic" of the Bay Area, crime is a reaction to the structural violence of the white patriarchy, and business owners are capitalist exploiters, and so the more crazy left-wing your mayor is, the better, hence the election of Mayor Quan. If Mayor Quan is a typical far-left Bay Area politician, she will not be happy as long as there is one profitable business remaining in the city of Oakland or one resident left who is above poverty and can survive without some kind of public assistance.

    I guess Oaklander is right: there are some people in Oakland who care more about taxpayers, business owners and peaceful residents than about criminals.

    I hope this effort succeeds, and if I may dream, I would dream that LTC reform be a part of the effort. I realize that the mayor and city council have no direct authority over LTC issuance. However, they are able to write the job description for the police chief, and they can, if they chose to, include LTC policy terms and compliance with that policy in the job description, and they can fire a police chief for not performing up to the standards in the job description.

    If people in Oakland are fed up enough to want to recall a left-wing whacko like Quan maybe they're fed up enough that they would consider LTC as one aspect of the solution.

    Unfortunately:

    The signatures include some of Ron Dellums' supporters, including Gene Hazzard. It also includes a former Oakland Unified School District board member, Toni Cook.
    This may indicate that the problem is not that Mayor Quan is ineffective but that she's the wrong flavor of left-wing whacko. Ah Oakland politics.
    Last edited by CCWFacts; 10-24-2011, 3:41 PM.
    "Weakness is provocative."
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    JJE
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 242

    I suspect Don Perata (Quan's main opposition during the election) is behind this. I have no evidence, but I would put nothing past Don "father of California's assault weapon ban" Perata. I also suspect that Dellums name is being brought up to disguise Perata's involvement. Again, I have no evidence, but I have an unlimited amount of hatred for Perata.

    Anyone but Perata!

    Perata getting termed out, then failing to amend CA term limits, and finally losing the Oakland mayor's race to someone like Quan were all political highlights for me in the last few years.
    Last edited by JJE; 10-24-2011, 5:01 PM. Reason: more hate for Don!
    Julian

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    • #3
      CCWFacts
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2007
      • 6168

      Originally posted by JJE
      I suspect Don Perata (Quan's main opposition during the election) is behind this. I have no evidence, but I would put nothing past Don "father of California's assault weapon ban" Perata. I also suspect that Dellums name is being brought up to disguise Perata's involvement.
      Totally possible. I'm sure there's a racial angle to this as well. Quan may be a left-wing whack-job but she's the wrong race to solve Oakland's problems.

      Originally posted by JJE
      Again, I have no evidence, but I have an unlimited amount of hatred for Perata.

      Perata getting termed out, then failing to amend CA term limits, and finally losing the Oakland mayor's race to someone like Quan were all political highlights for me in the last few years.
      Pistol Packin' Perata! Aristocracy is nice when you're an aristocrat.
      "Weakness is provocative."
      Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

      Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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      • #4
        dunndeal
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 4997

        Where do I sign the above mentioned re-call petition?
        Those that call the US Constitution a living, breathing document only want to asphyxiate liberty.

        M76

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        • #5
          Sutcliffe
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2003
          • 6792

          Good old Teflon Don

          Did anything ever become of that FBI investigation on his dealings? I doubt it.
          I think a lot of people in power in Oakland don't like Quan and would gladly see someone they are more familiar with.

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          • #6
            CCWFacts
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2007
            • 6168

            Originally posted by Sutcliffe
            Did anything ever become of that FBI investigation on his dealings? I doubt it.
            Yeah they spent years and millions of dollars and dropped it.
            "Weakness is provocative."
            Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

            Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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            • #7
              GWbiker
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 733

              But, but doesn't Oakland have gun control?? So why all the crime?
              "If 5% of Ducks could shoot back, would you go Duck hunting?"

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              • #8
                Meplat
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 6903

                Originally posted by dunndeal
                Where do I sign the above mentioned re-call petition?
                Recalls are rarely successful and tend to absorb energy and resources better spent elsewhere.
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                To have it you must live it
                And like love, don't you see
                To keep it you must give it

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                I will go now, and fight you."
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                • #9
                  Connor P Price
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1897

                  Originally posted by Meplat
                  Recalls are rarely successful and tend to absorb energy and resources better spent elsewhere.
                  Originally posted by wildhawker
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                  • #10
                    Glock22Fan
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2006
                    • 5752

                    Originally posted by Meplat
                    Recalls are rarely successful and tend to absorb energy and resources better spent elsewhere.
                    I bet Gray Davis wishes you were right in his case.
                    John -- bitter gun owner.

                    All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                    I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                    • #11
                      oaklander
                      Banned
                      • May 2006
                      • 11095

                      I will ask "the people I know" - I may not be able to say everything, and I do not know how I feel about this. There is a split - it's not just with the Mayor - it's with City Council as well.

                      Basically, Oakland is two towns ("Hilly Part" and "Flat Part").

                      The Flat Part generally gets screwed by folks who live in the Hill Part. That is about as simple as I can make it. AND - it really is about that simple. . .

                      ETA: here is the strange part. Hill People are liberal and law and order statist types. They ARE the "Ikea Store People" that I complain about so much. They want their world to be orderly, and bright.

                      People in flat part are libertarian God and county freedom folks (like me and like most of you).

                      Do you guys understand why I love East Oakland so much now? It is exactly opposite of how people see it, and you have to actually live here for a while to catch this dynamic.
                      Last edited by oaklander; 10-24-2011, 6:17 PM.

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                      • #12
                        oaklander
                        Banned
                        • May 2006
                        • 11095

                        Originally posted by GWbiker
                        But, but doesn't Oakland have gun control?? So why all the crime?
                        Boredom and lack of jobs, basically.

                        ETA: I predicted this! HOLY CRAP!

                        Look at the addresses on the petition - http://imgs.sfgate.com/g/acrobat/201...ll10-24-11.pdf
                        Last edited by oaklander; 10-24-2011, 6:22 PM.

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                        • #13
                          dfletcher
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14776

                          Didn't the Oakland mayor's race use an odd scheme to decide the winner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Quan gathered fewer votes than Perata in some odd method that required voters to make a 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice of who should be mayor. Quan got fewer 1st place votes than Perata, but totaled more 1st & 2nd so she won.

                          Given the odd approach, shouldn't be a surprise she on the outs with many - a tricky approach to deciding the winner doesn't promote a legitimacy of governing.
                          GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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                          • #14
                            dunndeal
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4997

                            Originally posted by oaklander
                            Boredom and lack of jobs, basically.

                            ETA: I predicted this! HOLY CRAP!

                            Look at the addresses on the petition - http://imgs.sfgate.com/g/acrobat/201...ll10-24-11.pdf
                            Those addresses represent a cross-section of Oakland from the flatlands to estate properties on Skyline Blvd.
                            Those that call the US Constitution a living, breathing document only want to asphyxiate liberty.

                            M76

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                            • #15
                              mrdd
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2023

                              Originally posted by dfletcher
                              Didn't the Oakland mayor's race use an odd scheme to decide the winner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Quan gathered fewer votes than Perata in some odd method that required voters to make a 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice of who should be mayor. Quan got fewer 1st place votes than Perata, but totaled more 1st & 2nd so she won.

                              Given the odd approach, shouldn't be a surprise she on the outs with many - a tricky approach to deciding the winner doesn't promote a legitimacy of governing.

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