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  • DeadWhiteGoose
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 477

    Unified Displeasure? How so?

    I live in the Sacramento area and all you ever hear are people discussing how poorly run our statewide government is and how our politicians aren't doing their jobs. They keep creating more laws and limiting our freedoms while they can't even budget a check book. But one thing I do notice is an overwhelmingly high agreement level on the fact that things are being ran the wrong way and something needs to change. That said, all I can ask is that if the larger portion of the population is upset with how things are going, then how can they still be going? I was under the impression that this was a peoples democracy, and the majority wins. While it's not even nearly just the gun control laws that people are upset about, at least there are groups like the NRA trying to give us back our freedom. Sounds like its time for a change.
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    pointedstick
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 566

    • Systemic incentives for busybodies, narcissists, and utopians to run for office
    • Ideological commonality among majority of the electorate
    • Low voter turnout
    • Gerrymandering
    • Procedural quirks
    Last edited by pointedstick; 10-13-2011, 4:27 PM.

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    • #3
      mej16489
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 2714

      Originally posted by DeadWhiteGoose
      I live in the Sacramento area and all you ever hear are people discussing how poorly run our statewide government is and how our politicians aren't doing their jobs. They keep creating more laws and limiting our freedoms while they can't even budget a check book. But one thing I do notice is an overwhelmingly high agreement level on the fact that things are being ran the wrong way and something needs to change. That said, all I can ask is that if the larger portion of the population is upset with how things are going, then how can they still be going? I was under the impression that this was a peoples democracy, and the majority wins. While it's not even nearly just the gun control laws that people are upset about, at least there are groups like the NRA trying to give us back our freedom. Sounds like its time for a change.
      Because an overwhelming majority of the voting populace think, "The guy I vote for is fine, it's the 'other' guys that are the problem."

      I'll admit - I'm sorta guilty of this - my state reps are fine its the state senators I want out!

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      • #4
        PsychGuy274
        Veteran Member
        • May 2010
        • 4289

        Because people are idiots.
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        • #5
          Wherryj
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2010
          • 11085

          Originally posted by DeadWhiteGoose
          I live in the Sacramento area and all you ever hear are people discussing how poorly run our statewide government is and how our politicians aren't doing their jobs. They keep creating more laws and limiting our freedoms while they can't even budget a check book. But one thing I do notice is an overwhelmingly high agreement level on the fact that things are being ran the wrong way and something needs to change. That said, all I can ask is that if the larger portion of the population is upset with how things are going, then how can they still be going? I was under the impression that this was a peoples democracy, and the majority wins. While it's not even nearly just the gun control laws that people are upset about, at least there are groups like the NRA trying to give us back our freedom. Sounds like its time for a change.
          Wait until the next statewide election. You'll hear all of the people talking about how they are going to vote the incumbent back into office...for some inexplicable reason.
          "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
          -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
          "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
          I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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          • #6
            Wherryj
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2010
            • 11085

            Originally posted by mej16489
            Because an overwhelming majority of the voting populace think, "The guy I vote for is fine, it's the 'other' guys that are the problem."

            I'll admit - I'm sorta guilty of this - my state reps are fine its the state senators I want out!
            I can honestly say that I want ALL of my state's "representatives" thrown out immediately. None of them represent a single one of my principles. The problem is that most of the OTHER people in my district/state, etc. keep voting the losers back into office.
            "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
            -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
            "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
            I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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            • #7
              oni.dori
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 1007

              For the record, the United States is a republic, NOT a democracy. There is a big diffrerence.
              Originally posted by 383green
              Stockpiling ammunition is like investing in a 401k that allows you to make withdrawals in the form of kinetic energy.
              Originally posted by oaklander
              I will NOT be a part of a civil rights movement which contains its own version of "P.C."
              5-23-11 The day the Sleeping Giant awoke.

              "...What in the world is a moderate interpretation of a constitutional text? Halfway between what it says and what we'd like it to say?"
              -A. Scalia 2005

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              • #8
                oni.dori
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1007

                Originally posted by Wherryj
                Wait until the next statewide election. You'll hear all of the people talking about how they are going to vote the incumbent back into office...for some inexplicable reason.
                Because change and difference is psychologically frightening to most individuals. If they did not educate themselves on the alternate candidate, they worry too much that they are making a "bad" choice, so they just go with the one they are familiar with (whether or not they know that candidate is a horrible choice or not). Good, bad, or indifferent, familiarity is comforting.

                I would like to point out though, the last election was VERY close (just shy of a 50/50 split), a MASSIVE difference from what it was in the past election, and definitely far different than it has been here for a LONG time. I would even wager, that it would be even more different the next election. It IS gettting better in CA, albiet slowly, but it IS happening; Nation-wide even. As other states gain, even DEMAND their freedoms back and gain ground doing it, that sentiment is slowly seeping back in to CA.
                Originally posted by 383green
                Stockpiling ammunition is like investing in a 401k that allows you to make withdrawals in the form of kinetic energy.
                Originally posted by oaklander
                I will NOT be a part of a civil rights movement which contains its own version of "P.C."
                5-23-11 The day the Sleeping Giant awoke.

                "...What in the world is a moderate interpretation of a constitutional text? Halfway between what it says and what we'd like it to say?"
                -A. Scalia 2005

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                • #9
                  Wherryj
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 11085

                  Originally posted by oni.dori
                  Because change and difference is psychologically frightening to most individuals. If they did not educate themselves on the alternate candidate, they worry too much that they are making a "bad" choice, so they just go with the one they are familiar with (whether or not they know that candidate is a horrible choice or not). Good, bad, or indifferent, familiarity is comforting.

                  I would like to point out though, the last election was VERY close (just shy of a 50/50 split), a MASSIVE difference from what it was in the past election, and definitely far different than it has been here for a LONG time. I would even wager, that it would be even more different the next election. It IS gettting better in CA, albiet slowly, but it IS happening; Nation-wide even. As other states gain, even DEMAND their freedoms back and gain ground doing it, that sentiment is slowly seeping back in to CA.
                  These people just need to learn what the rest of us know from long-suffering experience: That it is nearly impossible for ANYONE to do ANY WORSE than the current bunch of politicians that are currently in office.

                  There's nothing scary about taking a chance when the alternative is more of the same insanity. Einstein is right.
                  "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                  -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                  "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                  I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                  • #10
                    FastFinger
                    In Memoriam
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2983

                    Also the people you hear, almost be definition, are the ones who are upset. The vast majority of other aren't that upset, mostly because they're not that informed. Sheeple.
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                    • #11
                      Patrick Aherne
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 1064

                      Democracy, pure democracy, is the tyranny of the masses. We used to be a representative republic. Do some research on how Athens turned out. People are stupid; people in large, agitated groups are stupid, overly emotional and extremely dangerous.

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                      • #12
                        SantaCabinetguy
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 15137

                        Originally posted by PsychGuy274
                        Because people are idiots.
                        And because some/most of them don't actually care
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                        • #13
                          yellowfin
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 8371

                          Look up "rational ignorance". Lots of articles on it on Volokh Conspiracy.
                          "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                          Originally posted by indiandave
                          In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                          Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                          • #14
                            dustoff31
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8209

                            Originally posted by DeadWhiteGoose
                            That said, all I can ask is that if the larger portion of the population is upset with how things are going, then how can they still be going?
                            And then I have to ask, if the larger portion of the electorate is as upset as they say they are, how do the same people keep getting elected and re-elected? Clearly, the majority isn't that upset.
                            "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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                            • #15
                              Fjold
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 22791

                              It's because stupid people are allowed to vote. That's the thing with the Constitution, you have to take the bad with the good.
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