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  • ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    Rifle registration effects....

    I understand us not being happy with new rifle registration law.

    Question.

    What will be the tangible effects on 2014?

    How will this law really change things?
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    NotEnufGarage
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2010
    • 4832

    Police will know who's purchased a rifle after Jan 1, 2014 from a records check, so expect a request to search if you're pulled over or if they come to your home for some reason.

    Not a problem for me. I have almost all the calibers I need/want (.22lr,5.56mm,6.8mm.308,.30-30,30-06) so I won't be purchasing any more long guns in this state after 2013. Too bad they'll be losing the future sales tax revenue of me upgrading.
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    • #3
      a1c
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • Oct 2009
      • 9098

      Originally posted by NotEnufGarage
      Police will know who's purchased a rifle after Jan 1, 2014 from a records check, so expect a request to search if you're pulled over or if they come to your home for some reason.
      Wait. Why should we expect a "request to search if we're pulled over"?

      Most of us have registered handguns. Has that triggered requests to search? Not in my case.
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      • #4
        Shellshocker66
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1760

        Depends. Like stated by NotEnuf, the police can track who purchased the weapon and its legal owner. Now what happens when they try to run the number on a pre 2014 long rifle? We already hear horror stories of LEO saying "this gun is not registered" so what is to stop them from un-educated seizure? As a side note I frequently stop by my local police station for free child safe locks, last time I was in I talked to one of the old timers who was manning the community desk and asked him how he would rate the education of most of the LEO's in the department on firearm laws. His statement "Most of these new people have never touched a firearm prior to the academy and are extremely undereducated when it comes to the CA laws".

        Now as to C&R collectors, it requires them to obtain a COE (certificate of eligibility) and pay extra money to still have guns shipped to the door. But it also opens some loopholes which are currently closed for C&R folks (check the C&R forum for more reading).

        But its not 2014 yet and who knows what will happen between now and then.
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        • #5
          yellowfin
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2007
          • 8371

          The effect is probably another lawsuit.
          "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
          Originally posted by indiandave
          In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
          Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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          • #6
            bden
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2009
            • 1923

            Originally posted by yellowfin
            The effect is probably another lawsuit.
            Get 'em!
            It's not about guns, it's about Freedom. -Mark Vanderberg
            Originally posted by bwiese
            Be like me...I own over 100 AR mags I got before the ban set in. Hell, I bought a ton of other magazines as well...I can throw hicap mags on the floor and swim in them.
            Liberals want my guns, conservatives want my porn. I'll part with neither.
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            • #7
              donw
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 1754

              it is my suspicion (maybe that should be read as 'hope') that it will be overthrown in court
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              i am a legend in my own mind...

              we are told not to judge muslims by what a few do...yet, the NRA membership and firearms owners are ALL considered as radical...

              "The second amendment ain't about your deer rifle..."

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              • #8
                NotEnufGarage
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2010
                • 4832

                Originally posted by a1c
                Wait. Why should we expect a "request to search if we're pulled over"?

                Most of us have registered handguns. Has that triggered requests to search? Not in my case.
                It depends on the cop. When they run your name through the MDT, it'll come back showing you as a firearms owner. Depending on why they stopped you or came to you house, that might be enough suspicion (in their mind) to want to search. Whether it's a legal search is another question entirely.
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                • #9
                  a1c
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 9098

                  Originally posted by NotEnufGarage
                  It depends on the cop. When they run your name through the MDT, it'll come back showing you as a firearms owner. Depending on why they stopped you or came to you house, that might be enough suspicion (in their mind) to want to search. Whether it's a legal search is another question entirely.
                  But again - many of us bought a handgun in the past couple of decades. Therefore, our name has been in there for years already. Never herd of a case where a LEO used that as an excuse to request a search. He doesn't need it. He can ask anyway, and you are free to refuse. Long gun registration is not going to change anything there.
                  WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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                  • #10
                    vantec08
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3795

                    Nail Gun. No DROS, no registration.


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                    • #11
                      LAWABIDINGCITIZEN
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 883

                      Originally posted by a1c
                      But again - many of us bought a handgun in the past couple of decades. Therefore, our name has been in there for years already. Never herd of a case where a LEO used that as an excuse to request a search. He doesn't need it. He can ask anyway, and you are free to refuse. Long gun registration is not going to change anything there.
                      This, Exactly.

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                      • #12
                        Mesa Tactical
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1746

                        The only effect will be it will take a little longer to DROS rifles.
                        Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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                        • #13
                          liketoshoot
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3810

                          30 day wait between purchase of new rifles??????
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                          • #14
                            SteveH
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1576

                            Originally posted by ap3572001
                            I understand us not being happy with new rifle registration law.

                            Question.

                            What will be the tangible effects on 2014?

                            How will this law really change things?
                            Harder to hide your long guns during a divorse.

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                            • #15
                              dantodd
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 9360

                              Three real effects.

                              The only effect that you are likely to see is when buying a rifle, I suspect you will no longer be able to "add on" an additional rifle at the end of the wait and I believe that you will have to do a separate DROS for each gun which will increase the cost of purchasing multiple firearms at one time.

                              Another effect that you are unlikely to ever see is in the event you become a prohibited person, by criminal conviction or being adjudicated mentally incompetent. In such cases the police will now be able to identify the firearms that you own and will have a shopping list when they come over to make sure you are compliant with the law.

                              Finally, if/when you have a rifle stolen it will be easier for police to track down the rightful owner should it be recovered.
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