LONG GUN REGISTRATION LAW...

[rp55]

This may be a stupid question but I have read all I can find and it remains unanswered. After long gun registration takes effect in 2014 can you still transfer multiple long guns with one DROS or will it be like handguns and you can only do one per DROS?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

It looks like the fee structure is going to be the same as for handguns...

SEC. 57. Section 28240 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

28240.
(a) Until January 1, 2014, only one fee shall be charged pursuant to this article for a single transaction on the same date for the sale of any number of firearms that are not handguns, or for the taking of possession of those firearms.

(b) In a single transaction on the same date for the delivery of any number of firearms that are handguns, and commencing January 1, 2014, for any firearm, the department shall charge a reduced fee pursuant to this article for the second and subsequent firearms that are part of that transaction.

[Dragunov]

just like any other firearm you buy, buyer and seller go to ffl, do the transfer,wait 10 days and instead of DOJ discarding the paper work they will now keep it. Its really that simple.

In Browns letter he even stated, DOJ has the info anyway, instead of tossing that infor on the long gun they are now going to retain it.

Whether you like it or not, the stores you buy the long guns from anyway kept a record of your long arm purchase. It just made it more difficult for LE to search and request those records.

The silver lining to this is if the law stays in tact, if you get ripped off, if anyone tries to sell that rifle legitimately, it will come up as stolen and you will get your stolen property back. maybe!

I am REALLY tired of people justifying (or sounding like they are) the stupid frikkin' gun laws in this state. It REALLY is pathetic. I'm not just talking to this particular poster, but all of you who sugar coat our anti-constitutional laws. I applaud what Calguns stands for and the efforts of many of the posters here, but come on now!

I'm glad I'm moving to Texas next year.... Godd riddance to this dunghole state.

Good luck to you all!

[ALSystems]

Whaddaya mean 'forsee'?

One of those is law already, and a couple already will take effect in 2014.

Now
* Required trigger lock sale (or safe)

Part of 809
* No FTF C&R transactions without licenses
* CMP purchases will require a FFL dealer?

This is just my personal guess. This guess is going past 2014 including the current long gun registration bill. I do not have any inside information.

What I am predicting is that everything thing that is annoying, expensive or just plain unfair about buying a handgun will eventually apply to long gun purchases. California politicians love making new gun laws. Each of these will have to be fought in court which is slow and expensive and uncertain. I believe California can create new gun laws faster than they can be successfully fought in court. It does not matter (at least to politicians) if these laws are unconstitutional or otherwise indefensible.

It seems for every one step forward California gun law takes ten steps backwards.

Currently when you buy a long gun, a statement you have a safe is enough. I doubt that will last.

Two of the listed items are part of 809. Other items haven't happened, yet.

We'll find out what actually happens, eventually.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Yes, I realize that. However, at some point, someone will sell an un-serialled long gun to someone else via ppt. How does DOJ propse to handle that situation?

AB 809 changes the list of information that dealers must submit with the DROS of a firearm. It adds this line to deal with long guns that have no serial number...

(15) If the firearm is not a handgun and does not have a serial number, identification number, or mark assigned to it, a notation as to that fact.

As mentioned above, I'm guessing that the notation will be the same or similar to what ATF wants on the 4473....NSN, N/A, or NONE.

[Bigtime1]

As taperxz pointed out, lotsa FAIL in this thread but he corrected that.

Correct. I will also note;
1.) it's from 2014 on
2.) it is only for purchases/transfers after that date

If I owned a gun store I'd be going deep on inventory between now and 1/1/2014. My safe is going to become too small over the next two years, that's for sure.