Another guy gets cought with an AW and does no real jail time.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Keep in mind, he isn't just he average plebe. He is (or was) one of the Hollywood elite.

Tone Loc is Hollywood Elite? What is this? 1989?

Sounds like he just had a good lawyer.

[sirsloth]

Tone Loc is Hollywood Elite? What is this? 1989?

Sounds like he just had a good lawyer.

LOL seriously. He was never elite, not even in 1989. Can anyone even name two songs of his? I'm pretty sure that his wallet helped him more so than his "fame."

[a1c]

Tone Loc is Hollywood Elite? What is this? 1989?

Sounds like he just had a good lawyer.

Yeah, no kidding. It's not like LA jails and California prisons don't count much more legitimate "Hollywood Elite" among their block residents. Much more famous rappers or musicians have ended up there.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

LOL seriously. He was never elite, not even in 1989. Can anyone even name two songs of his? I'm pretty sure that his wallet helped him more so than his "fame."

Two songs:

"Funky Cold Medina"

"Wild Thing"

And that's it for the two hit wonder.

[Scarecrow Repair]

Dantodd

I don't doubt that it is possible that walking out was not a viable option, and may have been the case. Personally, walking out is the path I chose, and I have no regrets, and all of my rights...

And what if you can't walk out because spouse is blocking the door?

Or what if spouse comes after you and your defense of yourself involves blocking which leaves marks, and the cops charge you for being bigger and male?

Not all of life's choices are really choices.

[rp55]

Can anyone even name two songs of his?

Short shameful confession

Wild Thing
Funky Cold Medina

[Ubermcoupe]

Good plea for serving time
Crappy plea for Firearm rights.

[bruss01]

Silicon Valley has lots of non-drone (i.e., mid or senior level) employees with drug etc convictions as well as even things like kiddie porn convictions or being reg'd sex offenders.

If they can ship product, that's what counts.

Bill, if you know them personally I will not argue with you about it. However, I worked in the background screening industry for several years (post 9-11) and most employers are screening employees nowdays, the liability to shareholders and customers is staggering otherwise. There may be a few tech-startup enterprises where they are desperate for talent, that may cut a few corners and may nod-wink at a pot bust on somebody's record. At the firm where I worked, the prospective employers did not even care to know the charge, just whether it was a felony or a misdemeanor and how old the conviction was. I don't know any employers using our screening services that would hire someone with a felony on their record. If you spend even as little as 5 years sitting on the sideline in any vaguely technical area (medicine, computers, even auto mechanics) you are basically starting from scratch when you finally do get back in the game.

I can tell you, if I have a choice between two individuals and one has a clean record and the other has a misdemeanor, I would not be hiring the guy with a record. In the current job market, having a record is going to keep a lot of people looking for work a looooooong time.

[luckystrike]

He will never own firearms again. EVER!

doubt that.

[hornswaggled]

Short shameful confession

Wild Thing
Funky Cold Medina

Why is that shameful? I rocked the Tone Loc cassettes in Jr. High. Nothing like suburban-friendly pseudo rap to make you feel hard (but in a safe way).

[Anchors]

Boy this post is an epic fail. He plead no contest to DV charges. He will never own firearms again. EVER! (unless we can win some court cases).

I guess that is no real jail time, but the idea that this isn't a big deal is probably something most of this forum will disagree with.

I would be devastated.
Losing my hobby, my job, my right to self-defense...

I can only think of a few worse punishments (serious prison time, debilitating injury, death).

[odysseus]

Two songs:

"Funky Cold Medina"

"Wild Thing"

And that's it for the two hit wonder.

Don't forget his stunning and moving role in "Heat" as Richard Torena...

[E Pluribus Unum]

I would argue that any time an "assault weapon" charge is levied against a citizen, it is a travesty; even hardened criminals. Let them be charged with the crimes they are committing, absent an AW charge. I would also argue that any time someone loses his gun rights forever over something stupid like a misdemeanor, it is a travesty, even when it's a hardened criminal.

Let severe crimes carry severe penalties, and minimum crimes carry little penalty. As soon as we begin to say it's OK for one group, it can be used against another.

[anthonyca]

Bill, if you know them personally I will not argue with you about it. However, I worked in the background screening industry for several years (post 9-11) and most employers are screening employees nowdays, the liability to shareholders and customers is staggering otherwise. There may be a few tech-startup enterprises where they are desperate for talent, that may cut a few corners and may nod-wink at a pot bust on somebody's record. At the firm where I worked, the prospective employers did not even care to know the charge, just whether it was a felony or a misdemeanor and how old the conviction was. I don't know any employers using our screening services that would hire someone with a felony on their record. If you spend even as little as 5 years sitting on the sideline in any vaguely technical area (medicine, computers, even auto mechanics) you are basically starting from scratch when you finally do get back in the game.

I can tell you, if I have a choice between two individuals and one has a clean record and the other has a misdemeanor, I would not be hiring the guy with a record. In the current job market, having a record is going to keep a lot of people looking for work a looooooong time.

As a contractor who has been in hundreds of businesses I can agree. Many companies will not even let someone on site with ANY form of DV, some are even more strict.

Working for financial institutions, Goldman, Morgan, chase, the federal reserve etc, often requires that contractors (electricians, AC guys) pass the 1934 sec act background. We have had guys with expunged misdemeanors denied.

They WILL find the arrest for a misdemeanor, even one 15 years old as they did for one guy I know. He was 18 when t happened. It's expunged so they wanted the police report to make their decision. He never even saw the police report and the cops wouldn't give him a redacted copy, even with a public records request. He was denied access to the job. 12 years with the same company, never ANY contact with law enforcement before or after. Everyone at work now knows he has a record, the company is scared to send him to new high profile clients, and this will NEVER be fixed.

Another guy had a drunk and disorderly in college. He is an officer of the company and makes over 500k. He has had trouble getting badged to project manage his jobs. I know this man personally.
If your arrested now days, it will never go away, EVER!

[Full Clip]

dude, he is a rapper/actor with lots of money and fame. the law always treat celebrities with lesser penalties than the average citizen.

Too true.
Even if Lindsay Lohan was found to have every AW on the list, she'd probably just get a fix-it ticket.