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  • speeder
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 75

    Another guy gets cought with an AW and does no real jail time.

    Good o'l Tone Loc gets cought with an "unregistered Colt AR15 Sporter" due to a search related to a "corporal injury to a spouse" arrest. The rapper plead no contest to the above charges (including the AW charge) and only ended up with 3-years probation, one day in jail (no doubt time served for time spent incustody), and 30-days community service.

    What happened to spending time with Buba?

    We all have heard, "your gonna spend time with Buba for that AW charge." But how many really spend any real jail time without other major assosiated factors involed. I'm talking about a major criminal history or commiting some major crime with the AW.

    An AW related charge can be a major wobbler, public nussance - Feloney plus add on the primary charge of "Corporal Injury to a Spouse." 273.5(a) PC is a Felony. This is what Tone Loc (reportedly) plead no contest to. He didn't plea no contest to "Spousal Battery" 234(e)(1) PC which is a Misdemeanor.

    Now, Mr. Loc may have been arrested for Felony Corporal Injury to a Spouse along with the additional filing for the Felony AW charge, but what did he end up with?

    Loss of his firearms, probation, and some community service. Call it good lawyering but a decent PD could have done just as well for him. Might it be that Mr. Loc has been an upstanding citizen all his life and since he has never had a previouse arrest they went very light on him? Maybe so, but I highly doubt it.

    For a normal Joe, any and all of the above would be a nightmare. Regardless of the " no real time served." It would be that plus +++ for me. That's why I keep my guns on the safe side of the law and I avoid other unlawful acts.

    This is just some banter against all the "jail time" threats I often read about when someone talks about some form of firearms violation. I know those threats are not without merit but what went wrong here?

    Ya,ya,ya, I know all about loosing all of your gun rights, loss of employment, the tremendouse amount of leagal fees, stress to you and your family, not wanting to be that guy etc,,,,,,

    Again, I am in no way making light of what "could" happen. But, where in the heck is the Jail Time for Mr. Loc! This is not the standard outcome we all read others warn about!
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    oni.dori
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1007

    Keep in mind, he isn't just he average plebe. He is (or was) one of the Hollywood elite.
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    • #3
      saki302
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7183

      If I remember right... If you owned it prior to 1/1/2000 I believe the first offence is an infraction with a $500 fine.

      But it's been a long time since I last discussed that part of the law..

      -Dave

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      • #4
        Scratch705
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2009
        • 12520

        dude, he is a rapper/actor with lots of money and fame. the law always treat celebrities with lesser penalties than the average citizen.

        probably helps that he most likely hired one of those top end defense lawyer money can buy.
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        • #5
          blazeaglory
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2011
          • 6370

          Originally posted by speeder
          Good o'l Tone Loc gets cought with an "unregistered Colt AR15 Sporter" due to a search related to a "corporal injury to a spouse" arrest. The rapper plead no contest to the above charges (including the AW charge) and only ended up with 3-years probation, one day in jail (no doubt time served for time spent incustody), and 30-days community service.

          What happened to spending time with Buba?

          We all have heard, "your gonna spend time with Buba for that AW charge." But how many really spend any real jail time without other major assosiated factors involed. I'm talking about a major criminal history or commiting some major crime with the AW.

          An AW related charge can be a major wobbler, public nussance - Feloney plus add on the primary charge of "Corporal Injury to a Spouse." 273.5(a) PC is a Felony. This is what Tone Loc (reportedly) plead no contest to. He didn't plea no contest to "Spousal Battery" 234(e)(1) PC which is a Misdemeanor.

          Now, Mr. Loc may have been arrested for Felony Corporal Injury to a Spouse along with the additional filing for the Felony AW charge, but what did he end up with?

          Loss of his firearms, probation, and some community service. Call it good lawyering but a decent PD could have done just as well for him. Might it be that Mr. Loc has been an upstanding citizen all his life and since he has never had a previouse arrest they went very light on him? Maybe so, but I highly doubt it.

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          • #6
            tenpercentfirearms
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2005
            • 13007

            Boy this post is an epic fail. He plead no contest to DV charges. He will never own firearms again. EVER! (unless we can win some court cases).

            I guess that is no real jail time, but the idea that this isn't a big deal is probably something most of this forum will disagree with.
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            • #7
              HowardW56
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2003
              • 5901

              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
              Boy this post is an epic fail. He plead no contest to DV charges. He will never own firearms again. EVER! (unless we can win some court cases).

              I guess that is no real jail time, but the idea that this isn't a big deal is probably something most of this forum will disagree with.

              An arrest or one day in jail is inappropriate for owning the rifle.

              As far as the DV is concerned, I don't care if he or she is a direct decendant of Satan, walk before things get out of control...
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              • #8
                dantodd
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2009
                • 9360

                Originally posted by HowardW56
                As far as the DV is concerned, I don't care if he or she is a direct decendant of Satan, walk before things get out of control...
                I don't know the specifics of this DV case but there are numerous anecdotal cases where people have lost their firearms rights for "DV" that didn't even include physical contact.

                IOW walking before things get out of control may not always be an option.
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                • #9
                  HowardW56
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 5901

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  I don't know the specifics of this DV case but there are numerous anecdotal cases where people have lost their firearms rights for "DV" that didn't even include physical contact.

                  IOW walking before things get out of control may not always be an option.
                  Dantodd

                  I don't doubt that it is possible that walking out was not a viable option, and may have been the case. Personally, walking out is the path I chose, and I have no regrets, and all of my rights...
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                  • #10
                    Crom
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1619

                    People v. Meyer - CA Assault Weapons Conviction PC 12280 - July 2011 <--This guy imported an AK-47 into the state from Nevada. Defendant pleaded no contest to count one with the understanding that no immediate state prison time would be imposed. The trial court placed defendant on probation for four years with 180 days in county jail, and dismissed the remaining counts [weapons charges].

                    It seems to me that DA's aren't going for the throat if there not hardened criminals.
                    Last edited by Crom; 10-04-2011, 9:55 AM.

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                    • #11
                      bruss01
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 5336

                      Show me someplace better than a car wash or a burger-flipping joint who will hire you with those convictions on your record. You have to pass a background check to work ANYWHERE these days, except maybe the lowest forms of menial labor.

                      Mr. Tone-Loc doesn't have to worry about that. Losing 9/10ths of my annual salary for the rest of my life and starting over again like I was at 18, plus all my guns... no thanks. I'd have a makeout session with Mr. Mossberg first. Lots of tongue.
                      Last edited by bruss01; 10-04-2011, 10:02 AM.
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                      • #12
                        aermotor
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2566

                        Thread title should read:


                        Another caleb gets caught with an AW and does no real jail time.

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                        • #13
                          bwiese
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27621

                          Note that the DV charge is serious and involves lifteime loss of gunrights.

                          The AW charge was simple *possession*. There was no transport, acquisition or manufacturing charge. As such it's a wobbler.

                          He had a high priced attorney and got the AW charge down to a misdemeanor.

                          Don Kilmer told me that 70+% of AW charges he knows of are a 'domestic' result (i.e, not transportation in car) - and that doesn't always mean DV, it means for any reason LE can enter house, which includes a variety of exigencies besides DV - or even that your cat knocked the phone to the floor and it autodialled 911.

                          Bill Wiese
                          San Jose, CA

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                          • #14
                            bwiese
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 27621

                            Originally posted by bruss01
                            Show me someplace better than a car wash or a burger-flipping joint who will hire you with those convictions on your record.. I'd have a makeout session with Mr. Mossberg first. Lots of tongue.
                            Silicon Valley has lots of non-drone (i.e., mid or senior level) employees with drug etc convictions as well as even things like kiddie porn convictions or being reg'd sex offenders.

                            If they can ship product, that's what counts.

                            Bill Wiese
                            San Jose, CA

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                            • #15
                              bwiese
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 27621

                              Originally posted by Crom
                              People v. Meyer - CA Assault Weapons Conviction PC 12280 - July 2011 <--This guy imported an AK-47 into the state from Nevada. Defendant pleaded no contest to count one with the understanding that no immediate state prison time would be imposed. The trial court placed defendant on probation for four years with 180 days in county jail, and dismissed the remaining counts [weapons charges].

                              It seems to me that DA's aren't going for the throat if there not hardened criminals.
                              Varies by locale and lawyering skills.

                              Expect LA area to be worst.

                              Bill Wiese
                              San Jose, CA

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