I almost got a question wrong on the HSC...test is faulty.

[five.five-six]

my favorite ones are:

it's best to store your gun unloaded locked and away from ammunition, they like true, I dressage

~and~

all firearms sales must go through a FFL, again they like true, but the law states otherwise

[InGrAM]

It's a typical government-written test.

A person with average intelligence will "overthink" the questions and miss a few.

+1 this is exactly what it is.

[SanPedroShooter]

That questions went something like this:
"Whom can you sell a firearm to in California without going through a licensed FFL?
A. Your best friend.
B. Your boss.
C. Your brother
D. No one/none of the above"

The answer is D, but that is also a lie. You can sell a C&R long gun over 50 years old to anyone in California without an FFL transfer.
Yet another lie on the HSC...

No I remeber that one, and I thought about the exepmtion for the +50 year old long gun, but I gave the answer they wanted anyway...

I cant find the question I missed in the practice test either. It was like, "In California you must use an FFL to sell a firearm (this is were I stopped reading) only if the buyer is not known to you." T/F Something like that.

I think the idea of failing the test while actually giving the correct answers from the PC, then suing is an awesome idea!

[five.five-six]

No I remeber that one, and I thought about the exepmtion for the +50 year old long gun, but I gave the answer they wanted anyway...

I cant find the question I missed in the practice test either. It was like, "In California you must use an FFL to sell a firearm (this is were I stopped reading) only if the buyer is not known to you." T/F Something like that.

I think the idea of failing the test while actually giving the correct answers from the PC, then suing is an awesome idea!

actually you can sell a C&R to any of those people, and to your brother with a interfamiliar transfer

[orion5457]

When it comes to any test for this state other than the driving test, I throw out all of my common sense and pass...If its something I would do some other state then I know I can’t do it here…

[vincewarde]

Um Have you seen the Box-o-truth video's where they shoot at mockedup walls. Pretty much anything will go through a wall. I am willing to bet there are some Pellet rifles that will go through a wall...

I have a Gamo Whisper .22 that I use for practice here at home. It's not a super high power air-gun and it will shoot through 1/2" plywood with lead pellets. I'm pretty sure with the fancy (but inaccurate) PBA ammo it would penetrate even more. I'm pretty sure that unless you hit a stud an interior partition wall with 2 pieces of 1/2" sheet rock would be no problem.

Some airguns are pushing lead pellets at 1,400fps. I'd say if they missed a stud, two walls would be no problem.

[MasterYong]

The test has some borderline "trick" questions anyways, depending on which version of the test you get:

The safest direction to point the muzzle of a handgun is:

A. Up
B. Down
C. Forward
D. In the Safest Possible Direction
E. None of the Above

I had to think twice about that one, and know someone that got it wrong. D is clearly the right answer, but if you're moving quickly many people will answer B without a second thought.

Whatever. It's the simplest test I've ever taken in my life. If someone can't pass it... I... I just dunno. I don't want to say they shouldn't have a gun... but... you'd have to be a complete moron to not pass this test. It has questions that are about as ludicrous as "True or False: it is safe to play Russian roulette..."

Seriously.

[Bigtwin]

actually you can sell a C&R to any of those people, and to your brother with a interfamiliar transfer

No you can't!

Remember you are taking a HSC= handgun safety certificate, not a long gun safety certificate.
C&R is only for long guns in CA as far as not requiring an FFL.


Slap me if I missed something but handguns are what were being discussed.

[Cokebottle]

actually you can sell a C&R to any of those people, and to your brother father or son with a interfamiliar transfer

Brother needs to go through an FFL for any handgun or non-C&R rifle.

[Cokebottle]

Remember you are taking a HSC= handgun safety certificate, not a long gun safety certificate.
C&R is only for long guns in CA as far as not requiring an FFL.


Slap me if I missed something but handguns are what were being discussed.

But the question does not state "handgun"... the entire test is framed around "firearms" in general.

And if your father/grandfather/son/grandson is a California resident, you can give them any handgun and say "Happy birthday".
All they need to do is register it for $19 with the OpLaw.

The only absolute in California gun law is they are poorly written.

[Anchors]

actually you can sell a C&R to any of those people, and to your brother with a interfamiliar transfer

The other posters covered my reply.

The test has some borderline "trick" questions anyways, depending on which version of the test you get:

I had to think twice about that one, and know someone that got it wrong. D is clearly the right answer, but if you're moving quickly many people will answer B without a second thought.

Whatever. It's the simplest test I've ever taken in my life. If someone can't pass it... I... I just dunno. I don't want to say they shouldn't have a gun... but... you'd have to be a complete moron to not pass this test. It has questions that are about as ludicrous as "True or False: it is safe to play Russian roulette..."

Seriously.

Personally, what if someone is buying the gun to gift to their friend (legal) that does know a lot about guns and they don't even intend to unbox it before transferring it again to them after Christmas.
What if they need to bring their own firearm for a particular safety course they want to take (uncommon, but it happens).
Get my drift?
Plus, 92% of firearms used as self-defense involved no shots fired. I'm not saying they shouldn't learn, but I'm saying that sometimes they need it NOW and knowing "point and click" is what they need to know by the end of the day.

Brother needs to go through an FFL for any handgun or non-C&R rifle.

Yup.

But the question does not state "handgun"... the entire test is framed around "firearms" in general.

And if your father/grandfather/son/grandson is a California resident, you can give them any handgun and say "Happy birthday".
All they need to do is register it for $19 with the OpLaw.

The only absolute in California gun law is they are poorly written.

Exactly.

[five.five-six]

No you can't!

Remember you are taking a HSC= handgun safety certificate, not a long gun safety certificate.
C&R is only for long guns in CA as far as not requiring an FFL.


Slap me if I missed something but handguns are what were being discussed.

well the question asks about a "firearm" not a pistol. the test could have been framed around artichokes, but it did ask about "firearms"

[dantodd]

It was also hard to keep a straight face when the guy was doing the safe handiling demonstration. I felt like I was in the twilight zone or something. Only in California...

the one time I PPT'd a handgun when I went to pick up the gun the employee brought the gun out of the safe. He laid the gun on the counter and unzipped the rug so I could see that it was my gun and turned his back to do something at the register. I took my gun, dropped the mag, cleared the chamber and locked the slide back. He turned around and said "I guess the safety demonstration is done."

[Meplat]

National Forrest and BLM are most assuredly public places. There are more public places where you can than you can't.

Unincorporated areas aren't public places they mean like safeway and the park and schools and general zones the public interacts in.

[Glock22Fan]

When my wife picked up her new SP101 in .327 Fed Magnum, they didn't have any .32 snap caps, so they made her pretend she was loading and unloading it!

When she took the test, she was slightly apprehensive. I told her that if she was in any doubt, she should ask herself what her sister (a bleeding heart liberal gun-hating soccer mom) would think the answer should be, and put that down. She got 100%. The only question she was unsure about was the one that asked where the serial number was on a revolver.