I almost got a question wrong on the HSC...test is faulty.

[Anchors]

Generally, it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in any public place.

True or False?

I almost answered false because you can LOC in unincorporated areas with under 200,000 residents/areas where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited. Of course, you can also carry if you have a carry license. I clarified with the gun shop and they said most people don't know that and not to over think the question.

Are they (DOJ) conditioning people to think they have less rights than the few that they really do have?

There were a couple other "questionable" questions (pun). They are very easy and simple, but some of them seem to be based more on DOJ opinion than California PC.

There were several other people taking the test with me and they seemed fairly nervous about it. Obviously since I'm already a gun owner (I buy them in my other state of residence, legally), I did not foresee running into any problems like the one above.

[Scott Connors]

Remember that the test is written with the viewpoint that handguns are not a good thing and its purpose is to find some reason to deny your purchase. Therefore, if you come to a question that is ambigious, choose the answer that leans toward the "more restrictive" answer. This is the mindset I used when I took the HSC test a few months ago--and got all the questions "right."

[Fjold]

The key to the question is "Generally".

Most of the counties in CA have over 200K people so LOC is not general. LOC and CCWs (LTCs) are such a small part of the population that they don't meet the general definition either.

I think that the question is accurate, "Generally", it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in any public place.

[Cokebottle]

Actually, you can LOC in unincorporated areas where shooting is not otherwise prohibited.

[Riflelover]

I honestly don't see any problems other then it wouldn't be the way I would ask it. All it takes it a little bit of reading comprehension, with the word Generally being the key to the answer.

[Cokebottle]

It's a typical government-written test.

A person with average intelligence will "overthink" the questions and miss a few.

[NorCalDustin]

I got that same question and while I did get it "right"... I did not agree with what the "correct answer" was... (Especially considering the county in which i live).

[morfeeis]

i missed one "can handgun ammo go through a door/wall?",i guess not everyone has an AR pistol

[slappomatt]

Um Have you seen the Box-o-truth video's where they shoot at mockedup walls. Pretty much anything will go through a wall. I am willing to bet there are some Pellet rifles that will go through a wall...

[Tripper]

just think of how pelosi would answer, and answer the same.

[Anchors]

The key to the question is "Generally".

Most of the counties in CA have over 200K people so LOC is not general. LOC and CCWs (LTCs) are such a small part of the population that they don't meet the general definition either.

I think that the question is accurate, "Generally", it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in any public place.

Yes. It is accurate, but it is still a bit ambiguous in a sort of usurping way.

Actually, you can LOC in unincorporated areas where shooting is not otherwise prohibited.

I know. I posted that in the OP.

I honestly don't see any problems other then it wouldn't be the way I would ask it. All it takes it a little bit of reading comprehension, with the word Generally being the key to the answer.

But why is it worded so poorly? Is there an ulterior motive?

It's a typical government-written test.

A person with average intelligence will "overthink" the questions and miss a few.

I scored a perfect 800 on another government-written reading test. I scored 96% on my college placement for reading. I got an A+ in my English class (over 100%, actually).
I still think that the majority of the questions were worded very poorly and (in my opinion) it seemed to be intentional.
I think if you were to retake it again after knowing all that you know, you would be sitting there going "why the hell are they asking this in such a loaded manner?" And that isn't just for the question I posted.

I did get 30/30 on the HSC, because after that question I realized to just go with whatever made guns the sound more restricted, dangerous, or unusable (cable lock AND trigger lock, unloaded, locked in a safe, with ammo locked in a separate safe, field stripped with the firing pin flushed down the toilet).

I got that same question and while I did get it "right"... I did not agree with what the "correct answer" was... (Especially considering the county in which i live).

Exactly. For a person living in a county where that is completely untrue, it serves to decide you into thinking LOC would be breaking the law. Which obviously you know isn't the case, but what about the new gun owner?

i missed one "can handgun ammo go through a door/wall?",i guess not everyone has an AR pistol

That question was "Most ammunition fired from a handgun is capable of penetrating doors and walls. True or False?".
The answer is obviously true. I thought that was a really straight forward question, actually.

[sreiter]

i havent bought a hand gun in this state since they went over to the HSC test - isnt there a book with the "right" answers in it like a DMV manual ?

[hoffmang]

Funny. CGF's litigation strategy will end up forcing changes to the HSC. Then again, most serious gun owners will no longer need to take the HSC since they will have a 12050 carry license...

-Gene

[I open carry]

StudyGuide

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/hscsg.pdf

[Anchors]

Funny. CGF's litigation strategy will end up forcing changes to the HSC. Then again, most serious gun owners will no longer need to take the HSC since they will have a 12050 carry license...

-Gene

I like the way that sounds.
It isn't like the test is a huge burden, but it is still a burden.
Plus the plainly biased and loaded nature of the test was obviously written by people who despise firearms.
It really suggested that I use a trigger lock and a cable lock on all my guns. Not one or the other, but both...
California loves to forget about the whole "self-defense" aspect of gun ownership.