need a legal opine here... PC12020

[kemasa]

Thank you for educating her.

I had to in order my it easier on myself :-). Plus I did not want her having the wrong impression of the law. I guess I should not have been surprised that she did not know the law, but it did. It also surprised me that she just listened to what I said and did not seem to check with anyone to confirm what I said.

[Cokebottle]

Remind me where it says rebuilding, say, a pre-ban-owned USGI to a Pmag is legal

PC states that it is legal to transfer the mags to a gunsmith for repair and for the 'smith to return them to you.

From that, we can infer that it would also be legal to repair your own magazines (since anything a 'smith can do, you can do for yourself and not for income).

Beyond that, all we have is an opinion letter from Gene's ex ( ) stating that rebuild kits are legal if they are used to repair an existing magazine... but further in the letter she begins to revert into butt-covering mode with statements akin to "it's up to the 58 DAs in the state"

It's almost as if she started the letter one day and completed it on another or after conferring with Iggy.


Once again... that which is not forbidden is legal, and the law does not prohibit rebuilding an existing magazine using new parts, though a a-hole DA could argue that you destroyed a magazine and manufactured a new one.
That's why TRP advise that there be at least one compatible part between the new and old mags. You can rebuild a USGI into a Pmag, but not a Beta-C.

[Hanse Davion]

Remind me where it says rebuilding, say, a pre-ban-owned USGI to a Pmag is legal

from Calguns.wiki

In a letter dated November 10, 2005, Deputy Attorney General Alison Merrilees answered a list of questions about the legality of repairing and replacing parts of legally possessed large-capacity magazines.

The letter clarifies that it is legal to replace parts of a legally possessed large-capacity magazine with parts of any vintage. It also states that the possession, sale, or import of all the parts of an otherwise prohibited large-capacity magazine is not illegal though assembling them into a new large-capacity magazine would be a crime.

The general rules regarding magazine repair appear to be that as long as one ends up with the same number of legally possessed large-capacity magazines, has a plausible path of replacement parts from the original possessed large-capacity magazine to the repaired magazine, and the magazine continues to work in the firearm it was originally designed to operate in, one would not be violating the law.

There are no restrictions on modifying a legally possessed large-capacity magazine to work in another firearm as long as the magazine continues to operate in the firearm it was originally designed for.

[Anchors]

I dislike people who encourage others to "find" large capacity magazines.
It just seems like they are telling people it's okay to import/make them, by just saying they "found it".

That is because that is exactly what they're doing.

Some kid on a mutual friend's facebook page told me "who cares?" when I told my friend that butterfly knives were illegal to carry in California.
Me: "I care because I am a law-abiding gun and knife owner and if I break the law it makes it harder for all of us to change things".
Him: "I have guns too and I just don't care".
Me: "Oh I get it, you are just a criminal. That make sense then".
No response.

We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

[jeep7081]

That is because that is exactly what they're doing.

Some kid on a mutual friend's facebook page told me "who cares?" when I told my friend that butterfly knives were illegal to carry in California.
Me: "I care because I am a law-abiding gun and knife owner and if I break the law it makes it harder for all of us to change things".
Him: "I have guns too and I just don't care".
Me: "Oh I get it, you are just a criminal. That make sense then".
No response.

We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

Sometimes people like to say one thing on a forum to have "internet friends" and do another in the real world too.

Law abiding...?

Do you do 55mph on the freeway?

You have never got a ticket?

Never been arrested?

Don't cheat on your taxes?

Etc, etc.

No need to answer, no way to fact check it. None of us are perfect. Only one person was

[Anchors]

Sometimes people like to say one thing on a forum to have "internet friends" and do another in the real world too.

Law abiding...?

Do you do 55mph on the freeway?

You have never got a ticket?

Never been arrested?

Don't cheat on your taxes?

Etc, etc.

No need to answer, no way to fact check it. None of us are perfect. Only one person was

I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over two years. I figured out how to stop them completely. I don't speed.
I do 65-70 on the freeway because that is the posted limit. People get mad, but I never have to worry about fines.
I don't cheat on my taxes, I don't make enough to care to cheat.
I have been arrested when I was much younger, but people change.
I grew up, some people willingly never grow up and that is the problem.
I haven't broken even the stupidest laws in a long time. To me it is part of being responsible.

I know no one is perfect, but that isn't an excuse to break the law whenever you feel like it and like I said, it makes things harder for everyone else who are trying to make things better.
It is hard to paint us as law-abiding citizens when an otherwise legal gun owner decides to CCW without a permit and gets caught.
It isn't right to blame us all for the actions of a few, but that is the reality we face.

[jeep7081]

I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over two years. I figured out how to stop them completely. I don't speed.
I do 65-70 on the freeway because that is the posted limit. People get mad, but I never have to worry about fines.
I don't cheat on my taxes, I don't make enough to care to cheat.
I have been arrested when I was much younger, but people change.
I grew up, some people willingly never grow up and that is the problem.
I haven't broken even the stupidest laws in a long time. To me it is part of being responsible.

I know no one is perfect, but that isn't an excuse to break the law whenever you feel like it and like I said, it makes things harder for everyone else who are trying to make things better.
It is hard to paint us as law-abiding citizens when an otherwise legal gun owner decides to CCW without a permit and gets caught.
It isn't right to blame us all for the actions of a few, but that is the reality we face.

My point was made. Carry-on

[Cokebottle]

My point was made. Carry-on

Big difference between an infraction and a felony.

Even our old AG wouldn't refer to habitual traffic offenders as "criminals".

The kid he was talking to had a "I don't care" attitude about felonies.
I can safely say that I have never committed a felony.

[jeep7081]

Big difference between an infraction and a felony.

Even our old AG wouldn't refer to habitual traffic offenders as "criminals".

The kid he was talking to had a "I don't care" attitude about felonies.
I can safely say that I have never committed a felony.

I agree. Wasn't the direction I was going. But, I see how it was read. My foot taste bad. My bad...