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  • #16
    Tack
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    • Nov 2009
    • 231

    +1

    Originally posted by sfpcservice
    Maybe the 2a foundation, calguns or NRA (or all) take out an entire page ad in Chicago's newspaper addressing how much the city has cost itself passing unconstitutional laws that they knew would land them before the Supreme Court.

    Edit: Perhaps this could be a multiple city initiative. I know San Francisco has had to pay some bills too....
    +1
    I like. Should we set up the ad campaign with Alan Korwin?
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    • #17
      Crom
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1619

      I'd like to extend a heartfelt thank you to Chicago, and Oak Park. For without them we would not have another Supreme Court victory. Thanks! And I'm glad they must pay attorneys fees and costs.

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      • #18
        hornswaggled
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 1650

        Next time don't think the Constitution doesn't apply to you and this won't happen.
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        • #19
          Paul S
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 1847

          Originally posted by mag360
          it only matters (to Oak Park politicians) if the Citizens realize they are losing out on money for schools, police, fire, etc because of their stupid decisions to infringe on rights.
          So true...but it seems nearly impossible to convince the liberal citizenry voting blocks that this is the case. Look at the great City by the Bay as a perfect example of this.
          Lt. Col. Dave Grossman

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          • #20
            glbtrottr
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 3551

            If only Mare Richard M Daley (female horse) was found personally responsible for this, having to pay out of his own pocket, I'd be giddy.

            Too bad he's not.
            On hold....

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            • #21
              Wernher von Browning
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2011
              • 9826

              Originally posted by glbtrottr
              If only Mare Richard M Daley (female horse)
              He's not a female horse.

              Only part of one.
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              • #22
                jdberger
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                • Oct 2005
                • 8944

                Originally posted by sfpcservice
                Maybe the 2a foundation, calguns or NRA (or all) take out an entire page ad in Chicago's newspaper addressing how much the city has cost itself passing unconstitutional laws that they knew would land them before the Supreme Court.

                Edit: Perhaps this could be a multiple city initiative. I know San Francisco has had to pay some bills too....
                Interesting idea.

                Would you like to do a little research and find out what the local paper for Oak Park is, what the cost for a full page ad running 3 days would be, etc?

                It might also be helpful to look at Oak Park's current budget, funding of police/fire/education services, etc.

                If you'll get the initial research done, we might be able to do something with this.

                It might be fun.
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                • #23
                  morfeeis
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 7605

                  Originally posted by ccmc
                  Just a rounding error when you're talking about California's 11 figure budget deficit. Of course they could recoup it by making the state shall issue for residents and non-residents alike
                  Think of all the cash ca could raise by going pro 2a.
                  ccw fees
                  more taxes brought in from ccw training
                  open wild horse canyon back up and charge a $5 fee
                  more sales tax from the rush of gun sales after the death of the roster and all the standard cap mag sales.
                  money from taxes on gas after we have a bullet button roast.
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                  • #24
                    mag360
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 5198

                    Originally posted by jdberger
                    Interesting idea.

                    Would you like to do a little research and find out what the local paper for Oak Park is, what the cost for a full page ad running 3 days would be, etc?

                    It might also be helpful to look at Oak Park's current budget, funding of police/fire/education services, etc.

                    If you'll get the initial research done, we might be able to do something with this.

                    It might be fun.
                    DO IT. LOUD AND PROUD!! I'm in for $50 on this ad.
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                    • #25
                      wash
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 9011

                      Just a random thought but I bet Clement is going to charge a higher hourly rate than Alan...

                      Chicago is going to pay for their stupidity at a bargain rate.
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                      • #26
                        CCWFacts
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2007
                        • 6168

                        Originally posted by mag360
                        it only matters (to Oak Park politicians) if the Citizens realize they are losing out on money for schools, police, fire, etc because of their stupid decisions to infringe on rights.
                        Yeah, citizens really care about where their local tax dollars go. Citizens can't stand having pot holes in the roads, and bad schools and one-hour police response times, and they make sure that their tax dollars get allocated to those things. That's why in California our politicians are so good about limiting public employee compensation and pension costs, to make sure that the tax dollars go to delivering services that the taxpayers expect.

                        I'm being sarcastic of course. We as local taxpayers blow billions of dollars on things that would make make us laugh if we knew about it and it's not our money. Unfortunately it is our money and yet 99% of us don't know about it. Golden Gate Bridge toll collectors, who need all the IQ of a plant and the customer service skills of a hyena, make about $100k a year, fully costed. Do taxpayers in SF care? Not at all! They think it's wonderful!
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                        • #27
                          sfpcservice
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1879

                          Originally posted by jdberger
                          Interesting idea.

                          Would you like to do a little research and find out what the local paper for Oak Park is, what the cost for a full page ad running 3 days would be, etc?

                          It might also be helpful to look at Oak Park's current budget, funding of police/fire/education services, etc.

                          If you'll get the initial research done, we might be able to do something with this.

                          It might be fun.
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                          • #28
                            mag360
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 5198

                            Originally posted by CCWFacts
                            Yeah, citizens really care about where their local tax dollars go. Citizens can't stand having pot holes in the roads, and bad schools and one-hour police response times, and they make sure that their tax dollars get allocated to those things. That's why in California our politicians are so good about limiting public employee compensation and pension costs, to make sure that the tax dollars go to delivering services that the taxpayers expect.

                            I'm being sarcastic of course. We as local taxpayers blow billions of dollars on things that would make make us laugh if we knew about it and it's not our money. Unfortunately it is our money and yet 99% of us don't know about it. Golden Gate Bridge toll collectors, who need all the IQ of a plant and the customer service skills of a hyena, make about $100k a year, fully costed. Do taxpayers in SF care? Not at all! They think it's wonderful!
                            I think i've responded to you about attacking the public sector workers before. you need to recognize the downfall in the private sector, and stop railing on public workers. Why has the private sector abandoned pensions, why have they cut health/dental benefits. Are the bridge collectors overpaid, yes. Are firefighters, cops, CHP, CSU/UC regents/presidents, etc overpaid, yes. Do they skin a fat hog in retirement (3% @ 50!!! holy ****) yes... Are all public workers overpaid? NO. I'm a public sector worker for a utility, I get 2% @ 55 retirement, and I'm not overpaid compared to what a similar job in the private sector gets.
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                            • #29
                              Blackhawk556
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4182

                              Originally posted by jdberger
                              The list of municicpalities burned by following LCAV/Brady strategy is getting longer.

                              San Francisco
                              Los Angeles
                              DC
                              Chicago
                              Cleveland
                              Oak Park
                              Richmond....
                              Originally posted by CCWFacts
                              Yeah, citizens really care about where their local tax dollars go. Citizens can't stand having pot holes in the roads, and bad schools and one-hour police response times, and they make sure that their tax dollars get allocated to those things. That's why in California our politicians are so good about limiting public employee compensation and pension costs, to make sure that the tax dollars go to delivering services that the taxpayers expect.

                              I'm being sarcastic of course. We as local taxpayers blow billions of dollars on things that would make make us laugh if we knew about it and it's not our money. Unfortunately it is our money and yet 99% of us don't know about it. Golden Gate Bridge toll collectors, who need all the IQ of a plant and the customer service skills of a hyena, make about $100k a year, fully costed. Do taxpayers in SF care? Not at all! They think it's wonderful!

                              Please tell me you're kidding. where did you read this?
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                              • #30
                                emcon5
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3347

                                Originally posted by Blackhawk556
                                Please tell me you're kidding. where did you read this?
                                According to this, their base salary is between $48 and $54K per year.



                                With OT and benefits, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of them didn't cost the taxpayers over $100K per year. Pretty good money for someone whose only required skill is the ability to fog a mirror.

                                If you want to get a taste of how messes up San Francisco is, read this:

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