Taking minors shooting

[jwkincal]

All you folks worried about BSA didn't read everything very well.

The CA PC is about PISTOLS

The BSA rules specify only a RIFLE

[DVSmith]

All you folks worried about BSA didn't read everything very well.

The CA PC is about PISTOLS

The BSA rules specify only a RIFLE

That is only one PC that applies to minors. You are not allowed to supply ammunition of any type to a minor without permission or loan a rifle or shotgun to a minor without permission.

I don't have the PC's at my fingertips, but Machtinger lists them in How to Own a Gun & Stay Out of Jail.

[jwkincal]

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12101.php

[jwkincal]

(b)(1) A minor shall not possess live ammunition. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if one of the following circumstances exists: (A) The minor has the written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian to possess live ammunition. (B) The minor is accompanied by his or her parent or legal guardian. (C) The minor is actively engaged in, or is going to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.

Only needs to meet ONE of the exceptions; a BSA shoot would meet (C)

Be careful but be INFORMED.

[I open carry]

guys, I might be wrong here so bear with me please.
But as long as the Scout is with his adult troop leader, that leader is his legal guardian, for the duration of the trip.

[DarthSean]

Thanks everybody!

guys, I might be wrong here so bear with me please.
But as long as the Scout is with his adult troop leader, that leader is his legal guardian, for the duration of the trip.

Personally, I'd just get the note and avoid any legal complications.

[DVSmith]

guys, I might be wrong here so bear with me please.
But as long as the Scout is with his adult troop leader, that leader is his legal guardian, for the duration of the trip.

I am no lawyer, but I am a lifelong scouter and I do not in any way shape or form believe that to be the case. We ALWAYS have permission slips for the activity, medical release and permit to treat forms and firearms & Ammunition permission forms when on shooting activities.

You can do it your way as long as I am not involved.

[unicityd]

A scout leader is not a legal guardian. A legal guardian is a court-recognized person who has the authority and responsibility to make decisions for someone else including medical decisions and legal decisions involving the person and their property. A scout leader, family friend, baby sitter, etc. only has the authority that the parent has given them and the parent can take that authority away at any time.

Even if it seems unneeded in any given situation, I'd suggest getting written permission before taking a minor shooting. 99 out of a 100 times, you won't need the note, but why risk it?

[Merovign]

The word "Possession" is usually defined pretty broadly in law, I'm just not sure of the case law in some of the CA cases but I think it's defined broadly in these cases - as in, yes, if the kid holds it or has control over it, it's "possession."

Also, if you have any Registered Assault Weapons, no one under 18 may possess them, at all, permission or not. That would appear to include holding.

Stupid law, but there you go.