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  • DarthSean
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 864

    Taking minors shooting

    I have a group of people from my church that want to come shooting for the first time with me, but a couple of them are minors. I know they need to have a note from their parents, but does the note have to be very specific or follow any kind of a format?
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    johnny_22
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    • Oct 2005
    • 2180

    Example in How to Own a Gun and Stay out of Jail...

    "I, _________________,am the parent (or legal guardian) of________________(child's name). I give permission for ____________(child's name) to possess the following gun:____________(make model and caliber), as well as live ammunition for it. "

    Parent signs at bottom, prints name and dates it. Letter should be in the child's possession.

    From page 35 of Machtinger's book.
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    • #3
      Steyrlp10
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      • Nov 2008
      • 5341

      Depending on the range you're going to, the range will probably have its own waiver to sign. That may also give you an example of the language you need for the permission slip.

      Nice to see you're introducing young people to the shooting sports
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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44092

        I would worry more about a permission slip which authorizes you to give/consent to medical treatment should anything (car accident, sprained ankle, etc.) happen to any of them than a note specifing make/model/SN of the firearms they are going to shoot. AFAIK, minors do not legally need a note from mommy allowing them to possoss firearms unless they are going to have them without being accompanied by an adult.
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        • #5
          unicityd
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 6

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          AFAIK, minors do not legally need a note from mommy allowing them to possoss firearms unless they are going to have them without being accompanied by an adult.
          They do in California:

          12101. (a)(1) A minor shall not possess a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if one of the following circumstances exists:
          ...
          (B) The minor is accompanied by a responsible adult, the minor has the prior written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian, and the minor is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
          [or]
          (C) The minor is at least 16 years of age, the minor has the prior written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian, and the minor is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.

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            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44092

            Originally posted by unicityd
            They do in California:

            12101. (a)(1) A minor shall not possess a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if one of the following circumstances exists:
            ...
            (B) The minor is accompanied by a responsible adult, the minor has the prior written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian, and the minor is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
            [or]
            (C) The minor is at least 16 years of age, the minor has the prior written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian, and the minor is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
            Thanks. I was wrong and have no problem admitting it.
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            • #7
              Munk
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2124

              Originally posted by unicityd
              They do in California:

              12101. (a)(1) A minor shall not possess a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if one of the following circumstances exists:
              ...
              (B) The minor is accompanied by a responsible adult, the minor has the prior written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian, and the minor is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
              [or]
              (C) The minor is at least 16 years of age, the minor has the prior written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian, and the minor is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
              Someone should forward this info to the BSA. Many of the troops don't get written consent from non-participating parents when their kids go on a shooting trip.
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              • #8
                Tripper
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2011
                • 7628

                Umm, I think possess and using is really 2 diff things, I can use a full auto and not possess it.
                Not to mention it applies to concealable firearms, and possession. A note is preferable though as a personal preference, fairly close to what is posted above absent the make/model.
                Scouts has a waiver too usually, if your a parent and not signing something when your kid goes on a scout trip you should be asking someone, ask for their trip plan that gets approved at the council every trip is required to have that done firearms or not, needs a trip plan filed at council office
                We had 2 forms signed when firearms were involved.
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                • #9
                  Tripper
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  I think there was some waiver to start off that's good for like the year, a tour permit is required for certain things, but always recommended for protection
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                  • #10
                    MoBait
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 539

                    Me and a buddy would take the pinhead from the fishing boat hunting and shooting (he is 15). Border patrol, Rangers, SDSD, and DFG never asked anything about a permission slip. However, we had talked to his mother and she had even bought an 870 for him.

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                    • #11
                      DVSmith
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3702

                      Originally posted by MoBait
                      Me and a buddy would take the pinhead from the fishing boat hunting and shooting (he is 15). Border patrol, Rangers, SDSD, and DFG never asked anything about a permission slip. However, we had talked to his mother and she had even bought an 870 for him.
                      It is all fun and games until something goes wrong.

                      As mentioned above, you must have a release if you are loaning a minor a gun and/or ammo, even under your supervision, and should definitely have a permission to treat form as well. I require both even if the parent is along for the ride just in case we get separated for some reason. BTW, with the permission to treat, get a copy of the insurance card. Comes in handy at the ER.

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                      • #12
                        unicityd
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 6

                        Originally posted by Munk
                        Someone should forward this info to the BSA. Many of the troops don't get written consent from non-participating parents when their kids go on a shooting trip.
                        I read about that law just a few days ago and that was the first thing that came to mind. I don't know how old the law is, but when I was a scout in the 90s I don't think my mom or dad ever signed a permission slip for me to go shooting.

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                          DVSmith
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                          • Dec 2007
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                          Originally posted by Munk
                          Someone should forward this info to the BSA. Many of the troops don't get written consent from non-participating parents when their kids go on a shooting trip.
                          From the Guide to Safe Scouting:
                          Download the Boy Scouts of America’s official Guide to Safe Scouting.


                          Boy Scouting Standards
                          Boy Scouts may participate in all activities previously listed for Cub Scouts and in the activities listed here.

                          Rifles

                          1.Boy Scouts may shoot single-shot, bolt action, .22-caliber rifles with removable magazines only. Tubular magazines are not permitted.
                          2.All rifle-shooting activities must have a certified NRA Range Safety Officer directly supervising all live fire on the range. Additionally, the instruction offered must be done by a currently certified National Camping School Shooting Sports Director certified as an NRA Rifle Instructor, or an NRA-certified Rifle Instructor or an NRA/USA Shooting/CMP-certified Rifle Coach. These must be two separate individuals.
                          3.Shooting safety glasses and ear protection must be worn on rifle ranges.
                          4.Care must be taken to comply with federal, state, and local laws.
                          If the Instructor and RSO don't understand the rules, they should not be leading the activity. Don't send your scout if the rules are not being followed!!

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                          • #14
                            MoBait
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 539

                            Originally posted by DVSmith
                            It is all fun and games until something goes wrong.

                            As mentioned above, you must have a release if you are loaning a minor a gun and/or ammo, even under your supervision, and should definitely have a permission to treat form as well. I require both even if the parent is along for the ride just in case we get separated for some reason. BTW, with the permission to treat, get a copy of the insurance card. Comes in handy at the ER.
                            I just realized this and will have his mom sign a permission slip for him. It definitely is nice having a pinhead push the cart to the blind though.

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                            • #15
                              Mstrty
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2443

                              Here is the form I use for basic pistol class.

                              Your welcome to change it however you wish.

                              I am not a lawer so it might just be mush.
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