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  • Maestro Pistolero
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    • Apr 2009
    • 3897

    Gun Buy-back program for CalGuns?

    Had an idea. Why don't have our own gun buyback program, say $25-100 for any functioning firearm, then auction them off to benefit the foundation? We collect them, screen them for possible theft, get them 'off the street' and into the hands of a new law-abiding new owner.

    1000 guns bought for, say $50,000 could net a couple hundred thousand for the foundation.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by Maestro Pistolero; 03-27-2011, 4:24 PM.
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    GOEX FFF
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    • Jun 2007
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    My thoughts-

    First, Great idea... Second, though I think most gunnies know the value and worth of most firearms, and aren’t some Joe Schmo, or Fanny Moe from the neighborhood that has no idea, where a $50.00 coupon to Wall-mart (like most "buy back" programs offer) is more enticing than an otherwise arm that’s 10 fold the value.

    For most gunnies/collectors to sell something that cheap, you're talking about junk .22's and cheap starter guns in hopes to bring in substantial $$'s at auction.
    My guess is that typical neighborhood "buy backs" bring in dollars because the value of what's being traded in far surpasses the value of what's given.

    In anycase, it's a noble guesture, I just wonder how feasiable it would be.


    On a side note, I always thought the term "buy-back" was a misnomer.
    They weren’t previously owned by the folks buying them, so what is there to buy "back"?
    Last edited by GOEX FFF; 03-27-2011, 5:04 PM.
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    • #3
      NotEnufGarage
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      • Oct 2010
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      Do you mean to buy guns for $25 - $100 from CalGuns members or set up something in some inner city or suburban area and buy them from the public?

      I doubt many CalGunners would give up functioning firearms for $25 - $100, but a lot of suburbanites and city dwellers might. You'd probably need the cooperation of some LEA, in the form of some kind of partnership where you'd split the proceeds and you'd need working capital to pay for gift cards up front.

      You'd need the LEA association to protect you from receiving any stolen guns. Wouldn't want CalGuns or members arrested for receiving stolen property. I don't think many LEA's would be too interested in putting the guns back out on the street, though.
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        hoffmang
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        I think we'd need to work with a gun friendly law enforcement department to do the lost/stolen check. Obviously we'd need an FFL involved as well.

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        • #5
          resident-shooter
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          • Sep 2009
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          Originally posted by hoffmang
          I think we'd need to work with a gun friendly law enforcement department to do the lost/stolen check. Obviously we'd need an FFL involved as well.

          -Gene
          Yes, this is not as easy as said and done. A loooot of paperwork and if's involved.

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            Maestro Pistolero
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            • Apr 2009
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            I meant buy from the general public, and sell on the open market as in Guns America and Gun Broker. Yes an FFl would need to be involved and a cooperative LE agency would speed the lost/stolen checks.

            The net result and selling point (politically speaking) would be that each firearm turned in would undergo a lost/stolen check and be sold into the hands of law-abiding citizen who passed a NICS check.
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            • #7
              Backcountry
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              • Sep 2008
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              Bad idea... paperwork and legal nightmare... way easier and cheaper to just donate money directly to the foundation.
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                Maestro Pistolero
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                • Apr 2009
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                My original guesstimates could be quite low as to the numbers. I realize this would be quite an undertaking. But potentially profitable.

                I am wondering if there may be other opportunities to weave in a PR angle that would generate good buzz for CalGuns.
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                  Maestro Pistolero
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                  Originally posted by Backcountry
                  Bad idea... paperwork and legal nightmare... way easier and cheaper to just donate money directly to the foundation.
                  You have another idea to generate 100s of thousands?
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                  • #10
                    mrrsquared79
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                    • Mar 2009
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                    hell I'll get my ffl just to help the cause!
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                    • #11
                      wildhawker
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                      We have a solid network of supporting FFLs throughout the state and I'm sure we can find a few LEAs that would be willing to help.
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                      • #12
                        wash
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                        • Aug 2007
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                        I doubt you could make it "no questions asked" or violate GFSZs like the gun grabbers can.

                        Once you eliminate the crime guns there's not much except junk and widdows unloading their late husbands war relics and a few other oddballs like that. I don't think the relics would happen enough to pay for the pile of junk that we would be left with.

                        It's a nice idea in theory but it's probably easier to poach the nice guns at the grabber's buy back than try to legitimize the gun buy back business.
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                          Maestro Pistolero
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                          I doubt you could make it "no questions asked" or violate GFSZs like the gun grabbers can.
                          You could with the help of a friendly agency.
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                          • #14
                            Bill Carson
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                            • Nov 2009
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                            Isn't the basic philosophy of "Gun Buy-Back" programs that guns are dangerous, even the ones in your house. Criminals will break in to your house and steal your guns and use them to commit even more heinous crimes. We know this to be a lie so then how could we be on board with a program that promotes FUD.

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                              RP1911
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                              • Sep 2007
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                              Originally posted by hoffmang
                              I think we'd need to work with a gun friendly law enforcement department to do the lost/stolen check. Obviously we'd need an FFL involved as well.

                              -Gene
                              Sheriff Palmer? Can you just see the look on the local LEAs.

                              ETA: A gun show promoter has the proper credentials. So all we need is a location, clearing the serial numbers and an FFL.

                              ETA #2: A properly licensed FFL can receive guns. Then submit the form to their respective sheriff or PD for them to run the serial numbers. But then it won't be no questions asked.
                              Last edited by RP1911; 03-27-2011, 7:17 PM.
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