Out of State Dealers looking to do business with CA residents: A guide?

[WeaponOutfitters]

Hello,

Is there a guide or general walk through for how out of state dealers can do business with California based enthusiasts?

Seems like the laws are constantly being challenged, but I'd like to know how I can sell parts and accessories and stay on the right side of law. Specifically, what's the deal regarding 20-30 round magazine rebuild kits?

[77bawls]

Specifically, what's the deal regarding 20-30 round magazine rebuild kits?

They are legal to sell to whoever you want as long as they are disassembled. Serialized parts need to go through a FFL.

What's the deal with the Fastmags?

[WeaponOutfitters]

FastMags are my favorite magazine holding device. I prefer them over Bladetech, Raven Concealment, and Eagle FB pouches... and especially over Nylon pouches without inserts

[Soldier415]

Nice to see another business welcoming the CA market

[CHS]

Hello,

Is there a guide or general walk through for how out of state dealers can do business with California based enthusiasts?

Seems like the laws are constantly being challenged, but I'd like to know how I can sell parts and accessories and stay on the right side of law. Specifically, what's the deal regarding 20-30 round magazine rebuild kits?

It's really not THAT complex.

• Check out the various flowcharts at the top of the page here to see what's explicitly legal and what's explicitly illegal.
• Magazines can ALWAYS be shipped into CA as parts.
• Magazines can be shipped into CA to anyone who is LEO or anyone who holds a large-capacity magazine permit.
• Individual military personnel are NOT treated like LEO for large-capacity magazines. You may not ship to them.
• If you are an FFL, you must enroll in the CFLC program in order to ship firearms into CA FFL's. It's pretty easy and totally free. Takes less than 5 minutes to set up and less than 5 minutes to print an "approval letter".

Rifle AW flowchart: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
Handgun AW flowchart: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf
Shotgun AW flowchart: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf
CFLC system: https://webapps.doj.ca.gov/cflc/index.jsp
DOJ Approved handgun list: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

That should all get you up to speed pretty quickly.

Also, there are no constructive possession laws regarding AW's. If you ship an AW into a CA FFL that has been disassembled, it is not an AW per the law. This way you can ship firearms without having to install magazine locks or bullet buttons by yourself.

Regarding the "safe" handgun roster. LEO are also exempt from that list. If someone wants to purchase a handgun from you, just make sure it's on the list. If it's not on the list, it may also be exempt. Certain target pistols, C&R pistols, single-shot pistols of a minimum dimension, and single-action revolvers are exempt.

[WeaponOutfitters]

Thanks for the guidance fellas, much appreciated!

[CHS]

Thanks for the guidance fellas, much appreciated!

Any time...

Hey... You sell the Centurion Arms rails! Made in CA!!!

[redline]

It's really not THAT complex.

• Check out the various flowcharts at the top of the page here to see what's explicitly legal and what's explicitly illegal.
• Magazines can ALWAYS be shipped into CA as parts.
• Magazines can be shipped into CA to anyone who is LEO or anyone who holds a large-capacity magazine permit.
• Individual military personnel are NOT treated like LEO for large-capacity magazines. You may not ship to them.
• If you are an FFL, you must enroll in the CFLC program in order to ship firearms into CA FFL's. It's pretty easy and totally free. Takes less than 5 minutes to set up and less than 5 minutes to print an "approval letter".

Rifle AW flowchart: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
Handgun AW flowchart: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf
Shotgun AW flowchart: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf
CFLC system: https://webapps.doj.ca.gov/cflc/index.jsp
DOJ Approved handgun list: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

That should all get you up to speed pretty quickly.

Also, there are no constructive possession laws regarding AW's. If you ship an AW into a CA FFL that has been disassembled, it is not an AW per the law. This way you can ship firearms without having to install magazine locks or bullet buttons by yourself.

Regarding the "safe" handgun roster. LEO are also exempt from that list. If someone wants to purchase a handgun from you, just make sure it's on the list. If it's not on the list, it may also be exempt. Certain target pistols, C&R pistols, single-shot pistols of a minimum dimension, and single-action revolvers are exempt.

I'm trying to convince an out-of-state seller that by separating the upper and lower of a rifle (of what would otherwise be an assault weapon as defined by CA) is completely legal. For the bolded section, is there any specific law or court case that says there's no constructive possession in CA if the upper and lower are separated?

[Librarian]

I'm trying to convince an out-of-state seller that by separating the upper and lower of a rifle (of what would otherwise be an assault weapon as defined by CA) is completely legal. For the bolded section, is there any specific law or court case that says there's no constructive possession in CA if the upper and lower are separated?

No - there's just no Penal Code creating 'constructive possession' for 'assault weapons'. Can't be charged with something if it isn't made a crime, but tough to prove to someone who will not accept a negative.

[morrcarr67]

I'm trying to convince an out-of-state seller that by separating the upper and lower of a rifle (of what would otherwise be an assault weapon as defined by CA) is completely legal. For the bolded section, is there any specific law or court case that says there's no constructive possession in CA if the upper and lower are separated?

If you can't get the shipping FFL to understand this you might have to use an out of state middleman FFL. I would use Ryan @ Table Rock in OR he is very CA friendly and would be glad to help you out.