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  • 1 SIG fan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 2482

    Yeah. Let us know. Maybe someone here wants to buy it. It is a famous gun now

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    • Austin794
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 204

      Originally posted by bob6565
      This absolutely happened. I was in the shop when this took place and witnessed the whole thing. The owner of the shop made a great choice to deny the sale.
      I was there as well. I couldn't believe it, kudos to the shop owner!

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      • Austin794
        Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 204

        And for all that are wondering, the mysterious gun in question is a Hk P7M10 .40cal squeeze-cocker in nickel finish.

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        • RomanDad
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 3478



          Im just sayin'...
          Life is too short to drive a Ferrari...

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          • outkast353
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 92

            I say you should not and probably can not pursue any legal action against the gun shop. They choose who the sell to, they felt suspicious about the circumstances so they decided not to accept the liability.

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            • five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34710

              Originally posted by LuckyEnough
              I am a woman who has a significant other who had a domestic violence misdemeanor

              and you want to buy him a gun?

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              • jay84
                Junior Member
                • May 2010
                • 25

                Re: Gun Sale Denied by Owner of Gun Shop

                I call that a good gun shop. He saved you from committing a crime

                Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk

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                • gunsandrockets
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1537

                  Originally posted by Uriah02
                  It is not illegal to own a gun in the same house as a felon, but the felon/prohibited person cannot have access to the weapon.

                  Aha! Got it. See the recent case


                  It turns out that because of Second Amendment rights the government can't prosecute a person who owns a gun, just because the SO they cohabit with is a prohibited person. Mere presence of a firearm is not enough evidence to convict, on a charge of aiding firearm possession by a prohibited person.
                  Last edited by gunsandrockets; 12-13-2010, 7:22 PM. Reason: spelling correction
                  Guns don't kill people, Democrats kill people

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                  • CALI-gula
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 6693

                    Pshaw! None of this is so bad, and she should have been allowed to buy it.

                    Do any of you realize how many times I've bought a gun for any number of my other personalities?

                    In fact, I once bought a gun for Napolean Bonaparte (his tortured, plagued, reincarnated soul lives deep down inside me, repressed, parasitic on the very primary soul for which I must display to the world, all congested in this current temporary vessel for which all of us are imprisoned and merely passing through on our way to live among the light within the great nebula in Orion; which isn't so bad because wherever I go I've got a great group of drinking buddies).

                    Hell, I've even gave a gun of mine to a Senator's wife!

                    The only problems that ever arise are that Napolean is impatient, Mark Twain has a superiority complex, Sir Walter Raleigh keeps mumbling over in the corner and won't shut up, William Wallace is totally detached all the time, Lennon filed a restraining order against Lenin (that could be a problem) and Aleister Crowley has notoriously bad breath - seriously, none of the rest of us can stand it anymore - liverwurst, the worst.

                    Hey me, is that you? Yes me, no you, I wasn't talking to me I was talking to us, no... ME! Yeah, the me over there; no, not that me, that me, I - yes us - OK, we want to buy that SIG P210-5. Who's we you ask? I TOLD YOU STUPID! MES! THAT'S ME WITH AN S!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?

                    OH. I see. In that case, yes, we would like to purchase it for our Trust; All Of Mes LLC. Everyone except Lenin - he's got an active restraining order against him. No, he's not part of All Of Mes LLC. Besides, he doesn't like guns. Neither does Lennon. Sure, exclude him too.

                    Thanks.

                    4473? How many should we fill out?

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                    • five.five-six
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2006
                      • 34710

                      5150 much?

                      Originally posted by CALI-gula
                      Pshaw! None of this is so bad, and she should have been allowed to buy it.

                      Do any of you realize how many times I've bought a gun for any number of my other personalities?

                      In fact, I once bought a gun for Napolean Bonaparte (his tortured, plagued, reincarnated soul lives deep down inside me, repressed, parasitic on the very primary soul for which I must display to the world, all congested in this current temporary vessel for which all of us are imprisoned and merely passing through on our way to live among the light within the great nebula in Orion; which isn't so bad because wherever I go I've got a great group of drinking buddies).

                      Hell, I've even gave a gun of mine to a Senator's wife!

                      The only problems that ever arise are that Napolean is impatient, Mark Twain has a superiority complex, Sir Walter Raleigh keeps mumbling over in the corner and won't shut up, William Wallace is total detached all the time, Lennon filed a restraining order against Lenin (that could be a problem) and Aleister Crowley has notoriously bad breath - seriously, none of the rest of us can stand it anymore - liverwurst, the worst.

                      Hey me, is that you? Yes me, no you, I wasn't talking to me I was talking to us, no... ME! Yeah, the me over there; no, not that me, that me, I - yes us - OK, we want to buy that SIG P210-5. Who's we you ask? I TOLD YOU STUPID! MES! THAT'S ME WITH AN S!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?

                      OH. I see. In that case, yes, we would like to purchase it for our Trust; All Of Mes LLC. Everyone except Lenin - he's got an active restraining order against him. No, he's not part of All Of Mes LLC. Besides, he doesn't like guns. Neither does Lennon. Sure, exclude him too.

                      Thanks.

                      4473? How many should we fill out?

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                      • CALI-gula
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 6693

                        Originally posted by five.five-six
                        5150 much?
                        I've got spores that jingle-jangle-jingle.... as I go riding Mary-Lee A. Wong.

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                        • dfletcher
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14774

                          Originally posted by bob6565
                          This absolutely happened. I was in the shop when this took place and witnessed the whole thing. The owner of the shop made a great choice to deny the sale.
                          All these posts and no one's asked "which store"? So where was it, care to give a little insight?
                          Last edited by dfletcher; 12-13-2010, 8:15 PM.
                          GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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                          • gunsandrockets
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1537

                            welcome the minefield of gun law

                            Originally posted by LuckyEnough
                            I had something very disturbing happen to me today and wanted to get others opinions. I am a woman who has a significant other who had a domestic violence misdemeanor from about ten years ago. The restaining order was an act of retaliation from a broken up relationship. I have known about it. At the time (and to this day) he never realized the serious ramifications that came out of allowing that to stand without a fight. So recently he found a gun that he wanted to purchase as an investment. The DOJ denied him and by phone would not tell him the reason so he requested the paperwork to find out. I indicated that I would buy the gun. So we went today for me to purchase it. Understand that I have absolutely no blemishes to prohibit me from buying that gun and the employee at the shop said to come down with my handgun safety certificate and license to purchase. At the store he advised me that it was a felony to buy a gun on behalf of someone else and asked did I understand. I said I did. I expected them to submit my information for the 10 day check. Instead the owner came out of the back and told me that he would not sell the gun because my guy had expressed an interest in it. and he was denied. I told him that I felt that I was now the one being discriminated against and had every right to purchase it. He would not sell it to me. I'm very angry about this denial of my 2nd amendment rights and his assumption of of the role of judge and jury that I'm somehow guilty of something by association. Is this worth pursuing with an attorney? I have the means and am a lady with a sterling reputation and live by the word integrity. This hits me at my very core and feel it is not right. When I came home tonight and started researching DOJ reasons for firearms possession and ban I found that my guy is banned FOR LIFE from possessing or buying a firearm because of that restraining order. He is absolutely speechless over something that he had no idea was transpiring at the time of the misdemeanor. There was no proof of any harassment or threat from him to this person and the judge said that "to play it safe, he was leaving the restraining order in place but there was no ramification to him to do this". Obviously this wasn't the case. He will be contacting an attorney. Just so you know, my guy has been nothing but a sweetheart in the years I've known him. Not a shred of violence nor have I ever felt threatened. I believe totally that the restraining order was totally bogus. So what say this forum about my issue with the gun shop?
                            First off I apologize for the tone some people have used. Calguns should be for helping gun people, not insulting them.

                            Secondly, you have left wing Democrat U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg to thank for the absurd situation your SO finds himself in. Lautenberg pushed the change in Federal law back in 1996. Elections have consequences.

                            Your SO should exercise extreme caution until his prohibited status is resolved. If your SO was convicted of a domestic violence misdemeanor, it may be many years before the U.S. Supreme Court overturns that part of the Lautenberg Law.



                            Third, your best course regarding the gun store is to suck it up. A lawsuit would cost more than the investment in a pistol could have profited you.

                            Sadly the gun store had little choice but to deny you. From the evidence they had, it looked like an attempt at an illegal straw man party purchase. The Federal BATFE which regulates the gun store would consider it the same way.

                            You have my deepest sympathies. Welcome the awful world of gun law and regulation.
                            Guns don't kill people, Democrats kill people

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                            • gunsmith
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2004
                              • 2028

                              luckyenough, I had a friend in the same situation - he had to pony up the bucks to get his freedom to own back.
                              Next time you feel tempted to vote for a liberal/progressive remember that you were denied a basic God given right to own a firearm due to a control freak progressive.
                              And another thing, paragraphs!!!
                              NRA Life Member

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                              • hakcenter
                                Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 125

                                Originally posted by travelshot
                                A PPTP sounds kinky. Can one of the Ps wear the straw hat?
                                lmao I had vpn on the mind
                                Originally posted by Yo-Yo
                                The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

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