Linked dummy rounds

[EBR Works]

I was contacted by someone that is doing a low budget film. One scene will show a B-17 waist gunner in action. They want to purchase linked .50 BMG dummy rounds and empty brass from me for the scene. Can I legally provide 10+ linked inert .50 BMG dummy rounds to them in California? Again, this is not live ammunition. Thanks.

[dieselpower]

Search PC12020 in CA code. there might be a movie exception clause. If not ...no The owner of the linked ammo must be standing by as filming takes place.

yep
12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:...(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine...

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(1) through (30) = blah blah blah
(31) The loan of a large-capacity magazine for use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production

[dantodd]

That or you could epoxy in every 11th round making creating 10 rd. "ammunition feeding devices" connected to each other by a permanently disabled 11th link. Of course you will be losing a bunch of links but fortunately you can actually replace those with brand new links and rebuild the belt as long as you care to if you owned the belt with more than 10 rds. before the ban.

[dieselpower]

Just make sure they understand they must give you back 11 linked + the other unlinked links or they owe you 11teen billion dollars.

[EBR Works]

Maybe I'll just ship them 10 round segments and they can do what they want with them for the production. So stupid, for god sakes they are inert!

[dantodd]

Just make sure they understand they must give you back 11 linked + the other unlinked links or they owe you 11teen billion dollars.

No need to do this. You can disassemble and rebuild large capacity magazines at will. But, if you are concerned you can always keep 11rd. belts at home because you won't be shipping large capacity feeding devices as that would be illegal.

[dieselpower]

No need to do this. You can disassemble and rebuild large capacity magazines at will. But, if you are concerned you can always keep 11rd. belts at home because you won't be shipping large capacity feeding devices as that would be illegal.

Yes I agree, I get that confused since I am not a belt feed user. Once a high cap always a high cap..it doesnt matter if someone fires the whole belt. Its legal to rebuild / repair that.

[jamesob]

just be there when they shoot the scene and take em back.

[dantodd]

Yes I agree, I get that confused since I am not a belt feed user. Once a high cap always a high cap..it doesnt matter if someone fires the whole belt. Its legal to rebuild / repair that.

The suggestion to keep 11 rds. linked at all times has been made a number of times out of excess caution. I'm not saying don't do that, just that there is no clear need to, especially in this case where he is not sending the company any of his actual, legal, large capacity feeding devices.

[EBR Works]

just be there when they shoot the scene and take em back.

Not worth the hassle since the shoot is not local to me.

[wash]

Will there be any police on set?

If so you could send 10 round belts and a few spare dummy rounds which the police officer could link together and that would be perfectly legal.

[sigstroker]

That could be an interesting legal question. It's not an ammunition feeding device as there is no ammunition. In order to put any ammunition into it, the feeding device must be disassembled, at which point it is not a feeding device at all. If someone did link up 11+ rounds of ammunition, it would be that person that constructed the illegal feeding device.

[jtmkinsd]

So stupid, for god sakes they are inert!

Exactly how I describe our legislature

[jtmkinsd]

It's not an ammunition feeding device as there is no ammunition.

Not having live rounds in the belt has nothing to do with it. If you assemble 11 links, you've created a large-capacity feeding device.

[dave1947]

I was at koby's swapmeet in san diego sunday and a guy there had a 14 round and a 29 linked rounds belts for sale there. When i told it it was a felony waiting to happen he stated several LEO's had seen them but did not do anything about it. I told him he was lucky .