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  • #16
    PEBKAC
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1026

    If your featureless build is kosher cops probably won't see a problem with it. IIRC the trend I seem to remember from watching threads around here was that cops had more problems with BB builds as they looked more evil, whereas featureless builds garnered less attention due to the very obvious mods. Edit: it should be noted that, as long as the build was kosher, neither configuration has resulted in a conviction that I know of.

    Regardless, no need to change a legal configuration.

    More to the point, obviously there is no need to even let him in the door. And you most certainly should not. Just hand him a bucket of sand and politely inform him it is there for pounding should he wish to do so, then close the door. The above advice regarding configuration legality is assuming a warrant is issued. However, I'd put money on a warrant not being issued given the facts divulged.
    Last edited by PEBKAC; 11-07-2010, 10:47 AM.
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    • #17
      taperxz
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      Originally posted by gaucho750
      I think that the OP does know the law, he was just thinking that cops might be a little more familiar with BB.
      My statement was based on the OP thinking that the mag lock would make a featureless build look more legal. If everyone of us went out and tried to make our firearms "look" more legal where would we be today? Some one who is building a rifle that "may" have restrictions on how they are put together "should" know exactly what is legal or not regardless of what some uneducated LEO would think. If the OP is so paranoid as to what would happen to him in regards to his rifles, he should take responsibility upon himself to know the law prior to building. I am not trying to bash the guy! There is plenty of info on this site to remove all question marks in regards to the law.

      I think it is great that the OP is here asking questions and CG is here to help.

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      • #18
        taperxz
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2010
        • 19395

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        Do yourself a favor and take reading comprehension 101 again. I sure don't see anything in this thread to support your crazy claim.
        LMAO!! read the last 11 words of the OP. Comprehension??

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        • #19
          NoahTall
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 58

          The LEO freaks and says that he needs to come into our apartment to check it out
          Maybe he was a fellow enthusiast, and it was more like "I gotta check that out!!"...in a good way.

          Ya never know.

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          • #20
            J-cat
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2005
            • 6626

            Yeah, we all need to check it out. Make sure you have plenty of refreshments. Is there a range nearby?

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            • #21
              cmichini
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1739

              How about a letter to the Chief LEO to inform him that his rookie cops need to go back to school and get familiar with the 4th amendment of the constitution, and they may also benefit from a review of the first, and second amendments as well.
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              • #22
                CSACANNONEER
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2006
                • 44092

                Originally posted by taperxz
                LMAO!! read the last 11 words of the OP. Comprehension??
                There is NOTHING illegal with a mag locked featureless build. If the OP wants to play in extremely safe in dealing with uneducated rookie LEOs, this might be a good way to do it. He doesn'r have to leave it that way but, for storage and or when dealing with MORONS, it can't hurt. I hope that you will understand the laws regarding these weapons soon too.
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                • #23
                  gunsmith
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2004
                  • 2028

                  Originally posted by winnre
                  Tell the cop you think his wife has too many kids so you need to give her a pelvic exam.
                  Thanks alot! y'know, I've got coffee coming outta my nose now from laughing so much
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                  • #24
                    cannon
                    In Memoriam
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 8589

                    A rookie LEO out to protect the world from itself. If he ever shows up at your door. Just smile and say. "No"
                    ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                    • #25
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      Originally posted by cmichini
                      How about a letter to the Chief LEO to inform him that his rookie cops need to go back to school and get familiar with the 4th amendment of the constitution, and they may also benefit from a review of the first, and second amendments as well.
                      You are mistaken if you believe one reaches the rank of Police Chief due to his knowledge/respect for the Constitution/laws/common sense.

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                      • #26
                        CalNRA
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 8686

                        Originally posted by taperxz
                        Of course he wants in. YOU do not have to let him in and should not.

                        Kinda sounds like YOU are a little paranoid.
                        Originally posted by taperxz
                        I am also very surprised that you are building a rifle when you have no concept of the laws involving that rifle. DO YOUR RESEARCH FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!
                        Originally posted by taperxz
                        If the OP is so paranoid as to what would happen to him in regards to his rifles, he should take responsibility upon himself to know the law prior to building. I am not trying to bash the guy! There is plenty of info on this site to remove all question marks in regards to the law.

                        I think it is great that the OP is here asking questions and CG is here to help.
                        Yeah, your reading comprehension definitely needs work before you start calling people paranoid and not knowing the law, especially after his concerns about his wife's tendency to talk too much was validated.

                        Originally posted by taperxz
                        LMAO!! read the last 11 words of the OP. Comprehension??
                        time after time on Calguns we have come to the knowledge that "look" is everything to some police employees.
                        Originally posted by cvigue
                        This is not rocket surgery.

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                        • #27
                          gunsmith
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2004
                          • 2028

                          Originally posted by taperxz
                          LMAO!! read the last 11 words of the OP. Comprehension??
                          or should I just go with a mag locked featureless build?
                          A mag locked featureless build, is that illegal in CA?
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                          • #28
                            CalNRA
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 8686

                            Originally posted by gunsmith
                            A mag locked featureless build, is that illegal in CA?
                            as long as all other requirements are met, i.e. no >10 round mag, dimensional requirements, etc, he probably just wants to be extra safe. "See, it has no pistol grip, and just try to take off the mag without a tool."

                            Seeing how his neighbor immediately wants to search his home for guns after hearing about it, his concerns are valid.

                            PS: He married into a pretty inconsiderate family, with the wife saying too much and the BIL just plain not helping.
                            Originally posted by cvigue
                            This is not rocket surgery.

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                            • #29
                              taperxz
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 19395

                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              There is NOTHING illegal with a mag locked featureless build. If the OP wants to play in extremely safe in dealing with uneducated rookie LEOs, this might be a good way to do it. He doesn'r have to leave it that way but, for storage and or when dealing with MORONS, it can't hurt. I hope that you will understand the laws regarding these weapons soon too.
                              Actually i do, from this site! If this is the way you feel then why don't we all put mag locks on our mini's, our M1A's, ect. all stock featureless rifles?? A featureless build is just that and is not prohibited.


                              There is just no such thing as "more legal or more legal looking"

                              Hey, for that matter what if he does put a bullet button on a featureless build and tells and LEO that it is an AR or AK and the uneducated LEO still arrests the OP for possessing an assault rifle based on the name? Really where does it stop with ignorance? After all and LEO can arrest anyone any time for anything really!! It doesn't make it right, doesn't mean a conviction, so why be "more legal"?

                              Be legal, understand the law, and when all else fails call CGF.

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                              • #30
                                RRangel
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 5164

                                Tell your neighbor in no uncertain terms to PISS UP A ROPE. He has absolutely no business bothering you legal or otherwise.

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