Bullet Button on a Featureless Rifle?

[Taildraggerdave]

I saw a thread the other day that covered this ( I think ) but am now unable to find it....

An AR is modular by design. A guy builds an AR using an OLL, 16"+ upper, installs a bullet button, and runs 10 round mags. Everything is good here, right? Right.

Now, take the same lower, with an Exile Hammerhead or MonsterMan grip and install a featureless upper on it. Can the bullet button be backed out to function as a normal mag button and pre ban standard capacity mags installed, or does the bullet button need to be REMOVED and replaced with a standard mag button?

The thought process here is that a guy could have a "normal" looking AR with a bullet button one minute and then have the ability to install standard capacity mags the next minute...

Thanks,
Dave

[383green]

I can't think of any reason that the bullet button would need to be removed, as long as the rifle is never, even for a moment, configured in a restricted manner.

Edited to add: Of course, make sure that the bullet button is readjusted to be easily finger-operated before any magazine holding more than ten rounds is inserted.

[professorhard]

I can't think of any reason that the bullet button would need to be removed, as long as the rifle is never, even for a moment, configured in a restricted manner.

A fixed magazine rifle that holds 11+ rounds is an assault weapon

[383green]

A fixed magazine rifle that holds 11+ rounds is an assault weapon

The OP stated that in this hypothetical situation, the bullet button would be backed out to function as a normal magazine release. Thus, it would not be a fixed magazine rifle at the time that the 11+ round magazines are used.

[CSACANNONEER]

Having a featureless build WITHOUT a magazine lock (a BB is a mag lock) is the only way to run +10 round mags in a non RAW. A featureless build with a BB or other type of mag lock will do nothing for you except limit you to 10 round or less mags.

[383green]

Having a featureless build WITHOUT a magazine lock (a BB is a mag lock) is the only way to run +10 round mags in a non RAW. A featureless build with a BB or other type of mag lock will do nothing for you except limit you to 10 round or less mags.

If a bullet button is unscrewed far enough to be finger-operated without a tool, then it is no longer functioning as a magazine lock.

[bjl333]

Fixed stock.

[Taildraggerdave]

Another way of asking the question is: Is a backed out bullet button still a bullet button on a featureless rifle? Fixed stock, hammerhead or MM grip, muzzle brake, etc.
If it IS, then it must be removed to run 10+ magazines...
Take care,
Dave

[383green]

Another way of asking the question is: Is a backed out bullet button still a bullet button?

It's still a bullet button, because that's the brand name of a particular product, and it's still that product. However, if it's backed out far enough that it can be operated with the finger, then the magazine can be removed without the use of a tool or disassembly of the action, and thus the rifle is no longer a fixed-magazine rifle.

[CSACANNONEER]

If a bullet button is unscrewed far enough to be finger-operated without a tool, then it is no longer functioning as a magazine lock.

True. But, it does depen on the try of BB.

[mzimmers]

This isn't a legal answer, but...I'm pretty sure you can't back out the inner button enough to where you can actuate it with your finger (unless you have really little fingers). And even if you could, I wouldn't trust it to stay on, as there couldn't be many threads holding it in place.

It only takes a few minutes to completely remove a BB and replace with a conventional release. I for one don't recommend trying to use the BB in a manner other than which it was intended.

[383green]

True. But, it does depen on the try of BB.

Let me guess... are you posting from an iPhone?

[383green]

Fixed stock.

What did you mean by that? A complete sentence would be helpful.