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  • Paladin
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2005
    • 12387

    CCW issuance reform Q

    In the future, most anybody who legally can will be able to get a CCW. So, you apply, pay your fees, have a background check, take your training, take a range test, and get your CCW.

    Then, oh, 6 months later, your employer transfers you to another part of CA.

    So, you move, you notify issuing CLEO of your move, and then what? Do you apply again w/your new CLEO, pay your fees again, I hope you get to skip retraining, get another background check, and take another range test to get issued a new CCW?

    You don't have to do this with your drivers license. Seems like it might be an unreasonable burden on exercising your 2nd A fundamental RKBA, esp for the working poor who don't have time & money to waste going thru the process again.

    Or have I made a mistake in my description of the process either currently or after a possible Sykes win?
    Last edited by Paladin; 08-16-2010, 12:47 AM. Reason: clarification
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    Uriah02
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3149

    Being that the CCW is issued by the county but effective statewide I might give a courtesy call to the new county but I certainly wouldn't let them seize or make me reapply simply for moving.
    I've never heard of any issue with having to re-apply/re-cert due to a move.
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      Purple K
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      • Dec 2008
      • 3101

      Originally posted by Uriah02
      Being that the CCW is issued by the county but effective statewide I might give a courtesy call to the new county but I certainly wouldn't let them seize or make me reapply simply for moving.
      I've never heard of any issue with having to re-apply/re-cert due to a move.
      One of the plaintifs in the Sykes case is a CCW holder from the Redding area, when he moved to Sacramento Sheriff McGinnis denied him.....
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        Andy Taylor
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 1367

        My understanding, and it is from info I recieved more than 10 years ago so things may have changed, is that you must notify the issuing agency and the agency into whose jurisdiction you have moved. Your permit will remain valid until it would normally expire. When renewal time comes up, you apply for a renewal at the new agency. They are free to renew or deny same as if it was a first time application.

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          Purple K
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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          • Dec 2008
          • 3101

          Rather than applying to the local Police Chief or Sheriff could we apply to the State Police? Since they are a statewide agency you change of address wouldn't be a change of jurisdiction.
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          • #6
            wildhawker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 14150

            (B)If the license is one to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, then it may not be revoked solely because the licensee changes his or her place of residence to another county if the licensee has not breached any conditions or restrictions set forth in the license and has not become prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm. However, any license issued pursuant to subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) shall expire 90 days after the licensee moves from the county of issuance if the licensee's place of residence was the basis for issuance of the license.
            In a post-Sykes world, a fair (substantial) amount of procedural burden is ripe for challenge.
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            • #7
              Rossi357
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 1229

              Yesterday, I renewed my drivers license on line. No driving test. No written test. No eye test. No standing in line for 4 hrs. Maybe someday we can do the same with a CCW and voting. The internet is a wonderful thing.

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              • #8
                RomanDad
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 3478

                Originally posted by Uriah02
                Being that the CCW is issued by the county but effective statewide I might give a courtesy call to the new county but I certainly wouldn't let them seize or make me reapply simply for moving.
                I've never heard of any issue with having to re-apply/re-cert due to a move.
                12050 f
                (4) (A) The licensee shall notify the licensing authority in
                writing within 10 days of any change in the licensee's place of
                residence.

                (B) If the license is one to carry concealed a pistol, revolver,
                or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, then it
                may not be revoked solely because the licensee changes his or her
                place of residence to another county if the licensee has not breached
                any conditions or restrictions set forth in the license or has not
                fallen into a prohibited class described in Section 12021 or 12021.1
                of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions
                Code. However, any license issued pursuant to subparagraph (A) or
                (B) of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a)
                shall expire 90 days after
                the licensee moves from the county of issuance
                if the licensee's
                place of residence was the basis for issuance of the license.
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