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  • #16
    jdberger
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    • Oct 2005
    • 8944

    Any attribution for this statement?

    Saldana's a boob. She's repeatedly said that she's attempting to stifle First Amendment freedom of expression.

    Let her run for another office - I think that she might be suprised at the number of people and the amount of money that's mobilized to keep her a civilian.
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    • #17
      wash
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2007
      • 9011

      I have not heard the explanation of how AB 1934 is a good thing for us or helps us get LOC in any way.

      I don't think it does anything positive at all.

      As for attacking our laws to get LOC, we should get shall issue CCW first or California might become an LOC only state.

      That wouldn't be the worst thing ever but I want it all. The way to get there is fight the discretionary issue problem and then fight for LOC. After that we can even try for Vermont style no permit carry but I would save that fight for after we defeat the AWB.

      We have to be strategic. The anti's will latch on to anything that can restrict our rights so don't give them anything!
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      Originally posted by oaklander
      Dear Kevin,

      You suck!!! Your are wrong!!! Stop it!!!
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      • #18
        joedogboy
        Banned
        • May 2010
        • 1444

        Originally posted by Untamed1972

        Then why didn't her bill simply ask for a the establishment of a licensing and training system, rather than a total ban?
        Since there is a background check and required safety training to purchase a handgun, it stands to reason that most UOC practitioners have undergone both. This sounds like a "half-lie" - a knowing distortion of the truth - to me.

        It would seem that Saldana's real problem is with the ineffectiveness of those laws. Perhaps Saldana should focus on getting those changed or repealed.

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        • #19
          wkd4496
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 439

          FALSE. Their job isn't to protect us. The Supreme Court has made that very clear.

          I really don't her.
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          • #20
            pullnshoot25
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 8068

            I have not heard the explanation of how AB 1934 is a good thing for us or helps us get LOC in any way.

            I don't think it does anything positive at all.

            As for attacking our laws to get LOC, we should get shall issue CCW first or California might become an LOC only state.

            That wouldn't be the worst thing ever but I want it all. The way to get there is fight the discretionary issue problem and then fight for LOC. After that we can even try for Vermont style no permit carry but I would save that fight for after we defeat the AWB.

            We have to be strategic. The anti's will latch on to anything that can restrict our rights so don't give them anything!
            I think you got that reversed. CCW first may make us CCW only, like Texas and Florida.

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            • #21
              wash
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2007
              • 9011

              I think Texas and Florida have a damn good shot of becoming LOC.

              In fact as the recent trend goes, we might see a case like that in a friendlier jurisdiction so that we can import the decision back to CA.

              LOC before CCW would only let you fight for CCW with a privacy angle or something. That's a tough fight if the courts aren't friendly.

              If you get CCW before LOC, you can fight for LOC because they are requiring a permit to exercise a civil right.
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              Originally posted by oaklander
              Dear Kevin,

              You suck!!! Your are wrong!!! Stop it!!!
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              • #22
                N6ATF
                Banned
                • Jul 2007
                • 8383

                Until TX or FL are challenged for taxing and infringing the right.

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                • #23
                  Wherryj
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 11085

                  "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                  -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                  "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                  I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                  • #24
                    Wherryj
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 11085

                    Originally posted by jdberger
                    Any attribution for this statement?

                    Saldana's a boob. She's repeatedly said that she's attempting to stifle First Amendment freedom of expression.

                    Let her run for another office - I think that she might be suprised at the number of people and the amount of money that's mobilized to keep her a civilian.
                    If an UOC carrier had his gun taken in a robbery, doesn't that argue for the need to have LOC? He couldn't get his gun loaded quickly enough to avoid a violent crime.

                    Is she trying to make an argument AGAINST her own bill?
                    "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                    -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                    "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                    I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                    • #25
                      Wherryj
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      Originally posted by Maestro Pistolero
                      They are going to end up trading UOC for LOC, and I am going to LMAO.

                      Seriously, an interesting strategy would be to attack the UNLOADED part of the law RIGHT NOW. Just assume what we all know is true, that we can carry a functional (loaded) gun openly, and go after the unloaded restriction.
                      I'd be just as happy with LOC as with CCW, assuming that the "restrictions" were reasonable (no automatic body cavity search or shoot on sight in Costco types of provisions).
                      "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                      -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                      "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                      I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                      • #26
                        hill billy
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 2890

                        Originally posted by Pixs
                        Hi Folks,
                        Just a thought but how about trying to get as many people as possible to wear those tee shirts and really burn up the LEOs time and budget.
                        Best to all,
                        Pixs
                        I'm pretty sure that would do anything but turn away people who had a marginal opinion on the subject previously. There are already too many LEO's with a bad view of gun owners, why make it worse?
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                        • #27
                          AK_Guy
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 105

                          Saldana = Maxine Waters of San Diego...

                          I'm embarrassed that my fellow neighbors actually voted her into office...she was unemployed with no work history (other than helping in the computer lab at the local JC), and the only 2 people that she could get to endorse her on her commercials were her parents...a sad statement on my fellow Clairemontonians...
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                          • #28
                            Vox
                            Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 215

                            Originally posted by Wherryj
                            Those dastardly law-abiding citizens who know their legal rights-they are making a mockery of our Police State!!!
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                            • #29
                              HunterJim
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 267

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                              • #30
                                Chester
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1256

                                I know! Someone should put a bill up for vote that bans that pesky U.S. Constitution considering how much it prevents law enforcement from doing their jobs.

                                In all sincerity, the part you quoted from her REALLY scares the **** out of me. If anything, it pretty much enforces my desire to purchase MORE guns, not out of spite, but because it's becoming increasingly apparent that my right to life and liberty are seen as things to overcome by some of the people in power.

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