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  • SPaikmos
    Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 315

    Is there a legal cap on ammo stored?

    Met some dudes yesterday. One guy mentioned that CA has a legal maximum # of rounds that can be stored at home... said something around 36k rounds, inclusive of all calibers.

    That's the first I've heard of this, and everyone there (except me) joked that they were in violation of said ordinance. I can certainly see the .22 shooters having more than a few bricks lying around, but anything else would be scary

    I'd eventually like to have a cubic meter of ammo (like Edison's cubic foot of copper) although it'd be hard to give up on a new GT-R. But I digress.

    So, is there an ammo limit in CA? Has anyone been persecuted for violating it? I would assume this would only happen in conjunction with some other crime, and not in and of itself...
  • #2
    Vtec44
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 2237

    36k rounds huh? Damn, I need to work on my supply. Seriously, I don't know if there's a limitation on storage in CA.
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    • #3
      Malthusian
      Veteran Member
      • May 2010
      • 4133

      I should be good. I am pretty sure I have less then 36,000 rounds
      "While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"
      Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.

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      • #4
        thevic
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 1910

        36001 and its a felony
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        • #5
          Cokebottle
          Seńor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Nope.

          No limit.

          There is a section in the building code that specifies a limit to the number of primers, and specifies limited on the amount of powder stored in "one magazine", but the PC does not address completed ammo.
          - Rich

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          • #6
            Malthusian
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4133

            Primers 20K?

            Power 20# over that requires the wooden box thing, then up to 50#

            Am I close?
            "While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"
            Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.

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            • #7
              Mssr. Eleganté
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              • Oct 2005
              • 10401

              Originally posted by SPaikmos
              ...One guy mentioned that CA has a legal maximum # of rounds that can be stored at home... said something around 36k rounds, inclusive of all calibers.
              Then I need to sell some ammo quick, or buy a couple more houses.
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              • #8
                Malthusian
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                • May 2010
                • 4133

                If you can afford that much ammo you probably have several houses
                "While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"
                Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.

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                • #9
                  thevic
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1910

                  just build a dog house and register the address a b c!
                  Victor M.

                  Spartan Precision Rifles 07 FFL/SOT
                  Caldwell, ID

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                  • #10
                    Cokebottle
                    Seńor Member
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by thevic
                    36001 and its a felony
                    ????
                    - Rich

                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                    • #11
                      Vacaville
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 4360

                      Heck, I probably have a third of that and I consider myself a lightweight shooter. I'm going to assume it's FUD.

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                      • #12
                        Mstrty
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2443

                        Be careful how much and where you live this guy got 72hr mental health detainment for his ammo quantity, which could possibily lead into becoming a prohibited person.
                        source

                        Exploding ammunition cache greets firefighters arriving at blaze in Norco
                        March 03, 2007|Jonathan Abrams, Times Staff WriterFirefighters responding to a house fire in a Norco neighborhood were greeted with a dangerous surprise: gunfire. Lots of it.

                        Authorities on Thursday found a cache containing more than 1 million rounds of ammunition and 75 firearms, ranging from small handguns to assault rifles, throughout the burning home and in a shaft and tunnel under the garage.


                        The firefighters realized the stockpile was inside when rounds started going off. No injuries were reported.

                        "The Fire Department knew exactly what was going on when they heard the sounds," said Riverside County Sheriff's Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez.

                        "They knew it wasn't wood crackling over the fire."

                        The stockpile of ammunition is probably the largest ever confiscated in Riverside County, said Gutierrez.

                        A neighbor reported the fire Thursday afternoon and had dragged the homeowner, whom deputies did not identify, from the house, Gutierrez said.

                        The man later attempted to make his way back into the home.

                        Property records list the homeowner as Thomas McKiernan. Neighbors said McKiernan was a quiet man who had recently separated from his wife.

                        "We had to hold him down until the police got here and took him into custody," said Norco Fire Battalion Chief Ron Knueven. "He was swinging wildly and throwing some kicks."

                        Fire officials from Norco and Corona, agents from the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and Riverside County sheriff's deputies continued to inspect the house Friday. Much of the roof collapsed under the fire.

                        Authorities are not sure how the blaze started.

                        Authorities described the homeowner as a survivalist. He was taken for 72-hour psychiatric evaluation, and officials will then decide whether to press charges, Gutierrez said.

                        The 4-by-8-foot shaft, at least 10 feet deep, extended through the garage foundation, and a tunnel of unknown size ran east toward the house, Gutierrez said. The ammunition was stored in cardboard boxes, wooden crates, plastic bins and large cooking pots.

                        Gutierrez said 75 pounds of black gunpowder and two semiautomatic assault rifles were also confiscated.

                        Gutierrez said it was legal to own up to 1 pound of the gunpowder, but illegal to possess the assault rifles.

                        Authorities are checking the serial numbers of the remaining firearms.

                        "He could have gotten them from anywhere -- a reputable gun store or a shooting range, but who knows?" said Susan Raichel, spokeswoman for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

                        "This isn't a hobby he just picked up last year. He has definitely been doing whatever it is he does for a very long time."

                        Residents in the quiet neighborhood expressed shock at the findings. Many gathered to view the ammunition accumulated on the homeowner's driveway.

                        Last April, authorities seized more than 900 guns in the nearby San Bernardino County city of Upland from a man who said he was planning to overthrow Cuban President Fidel Castro.

                        "That was the closest we've ever seen to something like this," Gutierrez said.

                        "But we've never seen this much ammunition."
                        Last edited by Mstrty; 06-20-2010, 6:00 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Mssr. Eleganté
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 10401

                          Originally posted by bombmaster
                          Be careful how much and where you live this guy got 72hr mental health detainment for his ammo quantity, which could possibily lead into becoming a prohibited person.
                          I got the impression that the 72hr mental health detainment was more a result of him assaulting the firefighters because they wouldn't let him back inside his burning home. They would have held him for that even if he was a Beanie Baby collector.
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                          • #14
                            faterikcartman
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1404

                            Hey Cokebottle, I think it is pretty obvious thevic wasn't citing a statute. The OP said he heard 36000 rounds was the limit so thevic's 36001 refers not to a code section but being one over the limit. Whether or not 36000 is really is legal a limit, I have no idea.
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                            • #15
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 9192

                              I heard somewhere that if you own more than 10k rounds of ammo you should keep your trap shut otherwise the FiB's will have a file on you.
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