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  • JDoe
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2008
    • 2414

    911: ...you can defend your property if you need to...



    Here is the YouTube of it



    Looks like Oklahoma has a different attitude and laws regarding people protecting themselves...

    911 Operator: County 13 is advising that you can go ahead and defend your property if you need to...

    Home owner: I don't want to kill this man but I'll kill him graveyard dead Mam.

    911 Operator: I understand.
    I wonder how the conversation would have gone in California?
    Last edited by JDoe; 12-06-2009, 2:42 PM.
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  • #2
    eljBRD
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 156

    I can only Imagine...the intruder would have been treated as if he was the homeowner...

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    • #3
      jdberger
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2005
      • 8944

      Not true. Even in California there isn't any duty to retreat if you're in your own home.

      And she wasn't "defending her property". She was defending her life.
      Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

      90% of winning is simply showing up.

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      • #4
        CitaDeL
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2007
        • 5843

        Home owner: Someone's breaking into my house.

        911 Operator: Police are on their way.

        Home owner: I have a shotgun.

        911 Operator: Put the weapon down. You wouldnt want to injure them, you could get sued. Police are on their way.

        Home owner: You're right- I'd better aim high- (click - dial tone)
        The exchange above is only a dramatization- not a suggestion.



        Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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        • #5
          sideshowhr
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 928

          wicked. don't hear that stuff too often.

          although i would have done one thing differently... at least a 'stop or i'll shoot'.
          gimme back my bullets

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          • #6
            M. Sage
            Moderator Emeritus
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jul 2006
            • 19759

            Wow, that was a powerful video. I felt very sorry for the homeowner who had to pull the trigger, she was very broken up about what she'd just done.

            Kudos to the 911 operator for doing the right thing and being supportive in a stressful situation!
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            "We're here to take your land for your safety"

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            • #7
              Californio
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              • Dec 2006
              • 4169

              Police are 30 minutes away where my buddy lives in OK, that's the way they have do it.
              "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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              • #8
                Turo
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2009
                • 5066

                "It's a shotgun, It's large."
                Best answer ever.

                I feel bad for her and how shaken up she was about it though, I hope I never have to go through that.

                It seems odd that the first thing the dispatcher asked was if she had a gun. Maybe that just seems odd to me as a deprived CA-ian. I have a feeling that if the same thing took place here, the first question asked would be more like

                "Ma'am, do you have a box you can lock yourself in? Maybe he won't look in it and leave you alone."
                "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
                -Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  M. Sage
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 19759

                  Yeah, it only seems odd because you're used to CA. There are still some places where the authorities actually like it when you're armed and capable of taking care of yourself.

                  If nothing else, it means less risk for themselves; you shoot it out with the bad guys, and they simply show up with a mop.
                  Originally posted by Deadbolt
                  "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                  "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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                  • #10
                    wilit
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 5200

                    That is the perfect video to show any person who asks, "Why do you need a gun?" Because a 57 year old woman saved her own life when the police were minutes away.
                    "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
                    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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                    • #11
                      510dat
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 502

                      1 minute, 27 seconds from the beginning of the call to the shot, and that lady had a lot of warning.
                      "If we are to go around and decide who can and who cannot be free to live their lives in a way that is most conducive to their "pursuit of happiness" as long as it does no harm to others then our own freedoms are merely at the whim of the government because we are empowering them to decide that some rights are worth protecting and others aren't. "
                      -dantodd

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                      • #12
                        Lyte-
                        CGSSA Associate
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2063

                        video didn't play for me
                        Originally posted by Kestryll
                        I know you and frankly since we're being honest you disgust me.
                        In all honesty I waffle between finding you disgusting and pitying you that your life is so void of anything substantial that you measure yourself by 'conquests' and who you know that can get you in where.

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                        • #13
                          JDoe
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2414

                          Originally posted by Lyte-
                          video didn't play for me
                          Try this...

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                          • #14
                            CCWFacts
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2007
                            • 6168

                            That's a good call. She says, repeatedly, "I don't want to have to kill him", she shows sympathy for him "he's an old man", and afterwards she expresses awful remorse about what happened (she says a prayer for him, herself, or both).

                            That's the kind of 911 call that sounds good when a DA is evaluating the situation.

                            Compare that call with the Joe Horn 911 call...
                            "Weakness is provocative."
                            Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

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                            • #15
                              Arteel
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2392

                              You guys need to get out of CA more often

                              My family got pulled over in Montana one time and didn't have our hands visible. Police walked up with guns drawn because its normal for folks to be carrying their guns.

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