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I just bought a 1944 mosin m38 at the costa mesa gun show.The seller took my cash and i walked away, I only got a ''firearms transaction record receipt'' now if i where to be stopped buy the police or BLM what do i do?I have a brother- in law that is a police officer and he's telling me that i can go to jail and lose my gun, Because the gun is not registered.
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They do not register long guns. Yes there is a wait for them if you buy from a dealer, but DOJ has no information on the rifle. Remember what started the wait on long guns was called a "cooling off period" The info is available if they check the 4473. With that said you might be in violation for not going threw a dealer for a private party transfer. Then there is the C&R thing.Comment
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I'm fairly new to gun ownership so pardon my ignorance but i just got a 91/30 from big 5 that is registered correct.so how do i prove that I'm the owner, or if it is stolen ?Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. --Benjamin FranklinComment
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What is C&R ?Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. --Benjamin FranklinComment
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In CA believe it or not, you can buy a 50+ year old long gun from a private party cash and carry.Comment
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I can own a gun I'm not a felon nor am i in any violation that would keep me from owning a rifle.So now I'm all freaked out because that the last thing i need is some steel bracelets on my hand and my gun taken.Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. --Benjamin FranklinComment
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You will be fineComment
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Handguns are registered, long guns are not.
You can vol'reg a long gun through the DOJ, but it is not mandatory.
The dealer records the DROS on both, but on the long gun, the DOJ "erases" their record after 5 days. The only remaining record is in the dealer's bound book.
You should personally record and store the gun's serial number, photo, and description with the rest of your important documents... preferably in a safe other than your gun safe (if the gun safe is stolen, you don't want to lose all of your paperwork). I like the idea of the wall safe hidden behind a painting for important documents (and perhaps a backup pistol).
If the gun is stolen, you then have all of the information needed to report it properly, and if recovered, you will be tracked through the theft report.
The purpose of handgun registration is not to find you if the gun is stolen... it is to find you and charge you if the gun is used in a crime and "ditched" without having been reported stolen. Registration is not your friend.
Example... you are gone on a 2 week vacation. Your gun is stolen on day-5 and you don't now about it. The gun is then involved in a shooting. There's going to be an APB out on you and you may not even get back home to discover the gun has been stolen, and even if you do, reporting of a theft after the gun (or car, or anything else) has been used in a crime is not an automatic "get out of jail free" card.- Rich
Originally posted by dantoddComment
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well you're obviously not a C&R FFL or you wouldn't have posted this. But I believe the guy that sold you the gun probably was. If so, then I think you're covered under the Infrequent Sales clause...not totally sure though. Personally, i would have gotten something in writing from him stating that i don't need to DROS for 10 days and that he's a licensed dealer. Could have very well been some dude just wanting to get rid of a stolen rifle!!!sigpic
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So I'm good then.
not legal advice but just opinion..
I guess I'm just confused with all the laws in cali.I'm no criminal just a guy that likes to shoot.Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. --Benjamin FranklinComment
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When i asked him about how to handle the transfer he said '' this is my private collection and i can sell you this gun with out having to paper the deal etc''and saying because it was a old military rifle that it could be sold person to person. I mean i didn't buy it out of a trunk of a Monte Carlo in watts from ''spider'' i figured that it was good to go and plus thy guy was an older gentlemen,i figured he knew better then me.Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. --Benjamin FranklinComment
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