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  • #31
    bwiese
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 27621

    It appears that Berkekely code is 'on the books' but they understand not to enforce it.

    The problem, I've been told, is there's little case law requiring cities to expend efforts/costs to depublish bad law that is out of force due to court decisions, preemption, etc.

    Bill Wiese
    San Jose, CA

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    • #32
      wash
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2007
      • 9011

      I haven't checked this section in a few days. It's great news that Richmond is considering a repeal.

      I wonder if there is a polite way to let them know that anything less than a complete repeal would still generate a costly lawsuit. Otherwise they will probably re-write the ordinance just to remove the standing of your plaintiffs.

      If they do try to pull a fast one, please put the full force of the NRA on them, let everyone know that it's useless and expensive to keep bad gun laws on the books.
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      • #33
        Swiss
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 830

        Temporary repeal, back with a stronger law later

        From Richmond Confidential

        The council is considering to strengthen the law at a meeting next year, but Riddle has recommended the city repeal the ban in the meantime.

        <Snip>
        Being pro-gun rights in the Bay Area is like being a vegan at an Outback Steakhouse. You know you're right but nobody gives a damn.

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        • #34
          thempopresense
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 1134

          forward then reverse.....
          Originally posted by SOCMOB
          Straight out of 1984 by George Orwell, better read it before it's banned.

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          • #35
            chuckdc
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1919

            Originally posted by pingpong
            Whoa, I wasn't even aware that Richmond had a ban on possession. And to think, I go to Richmond Rod and Gun so much...
            Oops, same here. I used to go up there and shoot the TASC and Hot Shots matches.
            "Mr. Rat, I have a writ here that says you are to stop eating Chen Lee's cornmeal forthwith. Now, It's a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service of same!"

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            • #36
              tiki
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 1441

              The council is considering to strengthen the law at a meeting next year, but Riddle has recommended the city repeal the ban in the meantime.
              Oh, so they will repeal it and come back with one that is more unconstitutional? Nice. The concern wasn't about the weakness of the law, but, rather, its unconstitutionality.
              I don't believe they will come back with anything. Its just words to appease anyone that would oppose the repeal.
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              • #37
                CHS
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                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                Originally posted by tiki
                Oh, so they will repeal it and come back with one that is more unconstitutional? Nice. The concern wasn't about the weakness of the law, but, rather, its unconstitutionality.

                Actually, the main legal concern was that it was already pre-empted by state law.
                Please read the Calguns Wiki
                Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                • #38
                  bwiese
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 27621

                  Originally posted by bdsmchs
                  Actually, the main legal concern was that it was already pre-empted by state law.
                  Yup, the City Attorney appears to be a rational guy and understands the issues.

                  Remarks by the Council may just be posturing that they're gonna keep up the fight.

                  Bill Wiese
                  San Jose, CA

                  CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                  • #39
                    GuyW
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 4298

                    Originally posted by CDMichel
                    ....the City has been talking to us about the possibility of repealing the ordinance.....because we anticipate that the City will decline to repeal the ordinance entirely. More likely they may try to revise it.
                    Ha ha! Wary enough to suspect that change is in the air, but too stupid to appreciate the hammer that is about to fall....
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                    • #40
                      curtisfong
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 6893

                      Originally posted by bwiese
                      there's little case law requiring legislators at any level to expend efforts/costs to depublish bad law that is out of force due to court decisions, preemption, etc.
                      There, fixed it for you.
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                      • #41
                        Sgt Raven
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 3808

                        Originally posted by bwiese
                        The problem, I've been told, is there's little case law requiring legislators at any level to expend efforts/costs to depublish bad law that is out of force due to court decisions, preemption, etc.
                        That's a problem the courts really needs to address as there are to many bad laws that are out of force but can still cause problems in the short run, causing people to spend money on lawyers that they shouldn't have to.

                        Just look how Harrot changed the law in California, but the regulations haven't been changed to reflect it. It just causes FUD at all levels of government.
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                        • #42
                          Liberty1
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5541

                          Originally posted by fuddle
                          I just found this thread now. Any updates?




                          and congrats on 1.3 posts per year JK
                          False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
                          -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/

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