Dismal Republican candidates for governor

[bigstick61]

I doubt JB is a libertarian in the sense people are thinking about (libertarian conservative0 or even tending towards those sort of policies. There are leftist forms of libertarianism as well, but they are not exactly worth promoting (like the libertarian socialists, although I doubt JB is one of them).

[mcsoupman]

I just wrote this letter to my county rep chairperson. I am going to forward one to the state chair. I spoke very directly to get his attention hopefully.

Dear Fresno County Chair Dr. Sidhu,

Greetings! Let me start by saying thank you for being involved in the decision making process of our party and our State. I love California, but I am saddened more and more after seeing the direction that our state continues to take. We see our state continue to raise taxes and pass more laws restricting our liberties. Each week I seem to learn about more of my acquaintances packing up and leaving our state out of disgust. Most of these acquaintances are conservatives.

I participate in a web forum for gun enthusiasts from our state. As you are probably aware, pro 2nd amendment enthusiasts tend to be conservative also. Well it seems that the the current leading 3 republican candidates have taken strong anti-gun stances. This has infuriated this community. So much so, that it is almost become evident that my associates will look to Jerry Brown as our next Gov'r because of his pro-gun actions and history. As a long time conservative Republican with a legacy of conservatism, I am saddened we have put forth candidates with such anti-gun sentiment. We already have to scratch and fight for conservative issues in this state and I feel that alienating this segment will only cause further deterioration of our party.

This disappointment is shared with many of my associates. I would encourage our state leadership to look at courting this segment and encouraging their participation if we plan on furthering our party.

Respectfully submitted,

John
Fresno, CA

[nicki]

Our candidate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itkq_lXJ9SI&feature=PlayList&p=4A16E2ADE41AC768&index=7

I wanted us to have some humor

Nicki

[7x57]

I wanted us to have some humor

OK, now that's funny.

OTOH, wouldn't Nevada be the place to run on a platform of "I'll hump anything in a dress and I'm packing *lots* of guns?"

7x57

[SkiDevil]

Dilema Concerning Candidates or Lack of Supporting 2ndAmend.

Hello Nikki,
Your thoughts and intentions are admirable and show genuine support to the cause many on this site share: Gun Rights. However, the manner in which you propose to make a 'political statement' may not be the best course of action.

The issue of Gun Rights, Abortion, Gay Marriage, and other contentious concerns of the residents of the State often preclude rational thought and/ or actions on many because of the emotions involved. So, what does one do to counteract the situation of no legitimate (Pro-2nd Amend.) Republican Candidates for the Office of Governor of California? Run some unknown in an attempt to capture a few sound bites and maybe some newspaper articles or support an existing viable candidate. Some feel the more prudent course of action is the latter. I tend to agree.

Although running a CalGuns or other 2nd Amendment Organization's candidate would be pleasing to many of us who support the right to keep and bear arms it will end-up being as fruitful a campaign as the porn star who ran for Governor in a recent election.

The fact of the matter is that the two party system is clearly broken. Essentially, the Republican and Democratic parties have both failed the American public. What is truly needed is a change in the manner in which political candidates are elected. And, a party or parties who can effectively stand-up for the majority of the population of our State and country, not just the wealthy corporations and elites who compromise that top 1% in wealth.

What party would that be? Libertarian, Green, or whatever other party which is registered/ capable of offering a viable candidate.

Unfortunately, I wish that I had the answer, but I do not. It will take many of us around the Nation to wake-up those who have been too apathetic to push forward and make the government of the State and the Nation to work for the people. Electing candidates with the best interests in mind for their constituents is what all of us really need.

In California, we have so many problems right now. I am not certain how many people really will concern themselves with anything other than the economy and the 12% plus unemployment rate. Most families are struggling just to make it by nowadays so how pivotal personal rights will be in the coming election for Governor is debatable at best. As someone already commented on this website we are definitely in the minority.

So what then? To begin with winning an election principally requires two primary components;

1. Name Recognition

2. Money/ Campaign Contributions

So, if there is a Multi-Millionaire CalGuns member or resident in the state who qualifies to run and is VERY well known such a plan may work.

Otherwise, I believe if this organization should chose to support or promote any candidate for the office of Governor that it should be an existing and VIABLE candidate.

Should that person be Jerry Brown or another non-Republican? Only time will tell. Although it is fair to say that there are exceptions to the rule, many political candidates will make promises or take a particular position when running and reverse themselves upon being elected. Although it may be possible that one of the final candidates running for the office is not such a person. We shall see.

Inconclusion, if the NRA or any other Pro-2nd Amendment desires to gain support from ANY of the candidates it is going to take money. Maybe even a great deal of money. Even though I do not agree with our current system for campaign financing those are the current rules and if we as a group want a place in the game it will take money to 'acquire' support for our position. As the old cliche goes "money talks and bull**** walks."

The last thing that I will state is that after completing a Bachelors degree in Political Science and studying Public Policy in Graduate school there is very LITTLE difference between a Republican and a Democrat these days. I have worked in the Public sector with both Republicans and Democrats and observed this first-hand. We need to focus on the candidate not the party. I am personally a registered Independent or 'declined to state' and vote for whatever candidate most closely supports my beliefs/ policies. That fact that the number of Independent voters is increasing should be a clue to both parties, but apparently neither gets it.

Regards,
SkiDevil

[nicki]

Skin Devil.

I don't expect that our candidate is going to win, far from it.

Conventional wisdom is that Jerry Brown will be our next governor and based on what I hear from the "right people", he probably will be an effective governor and we can expect no stupid gun laws or if ones are passed, they will have poison pills in them that will gut them.

That Porn Star who ran for governor got increased visibility and sales of her videos, for her, it was a smart return on investment.

While our candidate would be running on the gun issue, it is obvious we would put up a website and whoever is running of course would touch on other issues also.

The issue for this forum is do we want a pragmatic Conservative or do we want a pragmatic Libertarian.

Do we want a "safe candidate" or do we want someone who will have "shock value".

We don't have to win the primary to make a point and by making a point we grow calguns.

Lastly, I'm not looking to create work for us, rather I want us to have fun with this. Many here on the board are Republicans and are looking at the 3 RINOS and throwing their hands up in disgust.

I bet there are many Republicans who feel the same and would vote for our candidate just so they could say **** you to the 3 RINOS.

I know I would vote for a conservative or libertarian calgunner over the 3 RINOS anytime.

So far we have 10 people who would collect signatures, at 100 signatures each we are 10 percent there. If they were really committed, they could do it themselves, but that would involve probably 40 to 80 hours of time for each person.

Nicki

[7x57]

That Porn Star who ran for governor got increased visibility and sales of her videos, for her, it was a smart return on investment.

Is this going to turn into the political equivalent of the "girls with guns" threads?

7x57

[KylaGWolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itkq_...1AC768&index=7

I wanted us to have some humor

Nicki

Oh I love it. I think he is a pompous arse in real life but that was too funny. But on a more serious note. I don't like any of our choices for the primary. I know who I would nominate to run from this board which is Gene if he would do it. If not I will just write in McClintock on the primary ballot and then hope that JB gets the democratic one and then when it comes time to vote in November, cross party lines and vote for JB....unless we do convince Gene to run and he gets the nomination .

[mcsoupman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itkq_...1AC768&index=7

I wanted us to have some humor

Nicki

That was funny at the end!!

[nicki]

Draft Gene

I know who I would nominate to run from this board which is Gene if he would do it. If not I will just write in McClintock on the primary ballot and then hope that JB gets the democratic one and then when it comes time to vote in November, cross party lines and vote for JB....unless we do convince Gene to run and he gets the nomination .

I second the nomination, Gene, you are being drafted.

Nicki