Transport a hand gun in an SUV with trigger lock without a lock box

[loather]

my hubby was told that his locking pickup-bed tool box (which is bolted to the bed) IS a utility compartment (2 references, San Diego and Riverside counties) and therefore doesn't constitute an appropriate locked container.

That's just plain stupid. I doubt very seriously that such would stand up to scrutiny in court if actually challenged. This kind of thing infuriates me. I was actually planning on buying one of those tool boxes for my truck so I could transport my firearms this way.

Seriously. How is that *any* different from a trunk? Most trunks have releases from the inside of the vehicle. It'd be *easier* to get it out of the trunk than the tool box (which requires a key).

[GuyW]

That's just plain stupid. I doubt very seriously that such would stand up to scrutiny in court if actually challenged. This kind of thing infuriates me. I was actually planning on buying one of those tool boxes for my truck so I could transport my firearms this way.

Seriously. How is that *any* different from a trunk? Most trunks have releases from the inside of the vehicle. It'd be *easier* to get it out of the trunk than the tool box (which requires a key).

You can still use the utility boxes to transport, it just doesn't count as the "locked container" for handguns...
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[mmartin]

You can still use the utility boxes to transport, it just doesn't count as the "locked container" for handguns...
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right... which means you have to have it in a locked case inside your locked tool box.

find the legal definition of "utility compartment"... if you can. and let me know if you do. apparently it's entirely up to LE and DA interpretation.

megan

[mmartin]

That's just plain stupid. I doubt very seriously that such would stand up to scrutiny in court if actually challenged. This kind of thing infuriates me. I was actually planning on buying one of those tool boxes for my truck so I could transport my firearms this way.

Seriously. How is that *any* different from a trunk? Most trunks have releases from the inside of the vehicle. It'd be *easier* to get it out of the trunk than the tool box (which requires a key).

a trunk is an integral part of the vehicle. a truck-bed tool box is not, even if it's bolted to the bed. or so I'm told.
functionally? looks the same to me... it's a locked compartment not accessible from the inside of the vehicle, and not removeable from the vehicle without the use of tools.

still, stupid or not, I'll just tell you in riverside you have to pay a lawyer to explain it to the DA or the judge, because the arrest report will say it was not properly and legally transported (that is, it was in an unlocked container in the utility compartment, and therefore consealed).

In SD county the LE will *tell* you the same thing, although I haven't seen it charged as such.

Megan

[IsaacGlass]

right... which means you have to have it in a locked case inside your locked tool box.

Does anyone knows if the locked case has be made out of

hard plastic


metal


or a lockable gun rug?

[1BigPea]

Does anyone knows if the locked case has be made out of

hard plastic


metal


or a lockable gun rug?

It can be made out of any of those.

I carry my pistols in a locked range bag, that is secure and sufficient.

[kalalp]

If I have a rolling lockable cover on my pickup bed with the tailgate locked would this be considered legal? Anyone know? Seems like the definition of a trunk.

[Librarian]

If I have a rolling lockable cover on my pickup bed with the tailgate locked would this be considered legal? Anyone know? Seems like the definition of a trunk.

Regrettably, 'know' would require either a detailed opinion from the Attorney General or a body of case law where different things were prosecuted and there were court rulings.

That said, I agree that your locked cover and tailgate seems like a trunk.

We have to stop over-thinking this. Drive carefully so you don't get stopped, and 99% of the problems will never occur.

In that remaining 1% will be things like accidents - in which case usually you will have injuries to worry about, far more important than how you happened to be transporting a firearm.

[Bigballaizm]

We have to stop over-thinking this. Drive carefully so you don't get stopped, and 99% of the problems will never occur.
In that remaining 1% will be things like accidents - in which case usually you will have injuries to worry about, far more important than how you happened to be transporting a firearm.

True!!