juvenile record

[sac550]

I would be careful asking one of your leo friends to run your criminal history through CLETS and NCIC. Any officer who does that has committed a felony under PC 502 and if it is discovered will most likely be prosecuted by local DA. NUMEROUS officers have gotten in trouble for this and fired. IF you requested they do it then you are guilty as well.

[fourdoorchevelle]

rofl , i read in one of these cgn threads to do that

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=1803618

[sac550]

781 W & I states:
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the court shall not order
the person's records sealed in any case in which the person has been
found by the juvenile court to have committed an offense listed in
subdivision (b) of Section 707 when he or she had attained 14 years
of age or older.

So if the offenses committed was in 707(b) sealing your record doesn't apply. CA sucks.

[fourdoorchevelle]

781 W & I states:
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the court shall not order
the person's records sealed in any case in which the person has been
found by the juvenile court to have committed an offense listed in
subdivision (b) of Section 707 when he or she had attained 14 years
of age or older.

So if the offenses committed was in 707(b) sealing your record doesn't apply. CA sucks.

Yeah the probation department and the DA both made this argument, but the judge still over ruled it and granted the request. If I have any snags in getting the agencies to comply , this might explain it.

[Acorn556]

Why not try and get in touch with the judge that sealed the record and ask him what's going on.

[fourdoorchevelle]

Why not try and get in touch with the judge that sealed the record and ask him what's going on.

the question is more along the lines of the actual implications of sealing the record. It's only been about 1 month so i have another month to go before every one has to comply

[technique]

You may just have to wait it out.

Have you spoken with the DOJ? You should of been given a number to call. (From what I read no you have not. I might have missed it)

I was denied for a traffic violation non-payment.



I have committed a few in my juvenile days, some violent, some involving guns....and even some "enhancements" to those crimes. I can own guns now.

I got off probation at the age of 18...I also bought guns at the age of 18.

Your paperwork my not have made it to its final destination. You may just have to wait it out.

[fourdoorchevelle]

I have committed a few in my juvenile days, some violent, some involving guns....and even some "enhancements" to those crimes. I can own guns now.

I got off probation at the age of 18...I also bought guns at the age of 18.

Your paperwork my not have made it to its final destination. You may just have to wait it out.

At first I was under the impression that sealing my juvenile record would "erase" my juvenile felonies, some have said that doj will still deny me since my juvenile record has a707(b) offense on it (even with being sealed). I am currently waiting to receive the confirmation of the record being sealed , then will check again. I am just curious and got a bit nervous after reading some of the threads in this section.

Did your juvenile offense's effect your ability to own firearms or did you seal your record and your juvenile offenses disappeared? Or did doj ever question your juvenile history after you got the record sealed?

Any way your signature is the ****. YEEEEEEEEEEEE

[technique]

I think that when it was all said and done, and all the conditions the court had requested were met... my record would be sealed. So I do believe my record was sealed.

I never had an issue with it after. It was never mentioned by the DOJ on any firearm purchase. So I assume it was sealed on my 18th B-day when I was released from juvenile probation.

When it came down to it in court....we made sure (and fought the whole way) I would be able to purchase firearms after sentencing was said and done. It was a long fight (8mo), and as you may know "time served" is not granted to juveniles...so on top of the 8mo. fight I had another year to do after that.

But yes, my record is sealed. No, DOJ never questioned it. I always check the "NO" box.

Technique, over and out....Yeeeeeeeee!

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Penal Code Section 707(b) after passage of Proposition 21 on March 7, 2000.

(b) Subdivision (c) shall be applicable in any case in which a minor is alleged to be a person described in Section 602 by reason of the violation, when he or she was 16 years of age or older, of one of the following offenses:

(1) Murder.

(2) Arson, as provided in subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 451 of the Penal Code.

(3) Robbery.

(4) Rape with force or violence or threat of great bodily harm.

(5) Sodomy by force, violence, duress, menace, or threat of great bodily harm.

(6) Lewd or lascivious act as provided in subdivision (b) of

Section 288 of the Penal Code.

(7) Oral copulation by force, violence, duress, menace, or threat of great bodily harm.

(8) Any offense specified in subdivision (a) of Section 289 of the Penal Code.

(9) Kidnapping for ransom.

(10) Kidnapping for purpose of robbery.

(11) Kidnapping with bodily harm.

(12) Attempted murder.

(13) Assault with a firearm or destructive device.

(14) Assault by any means of force likely to produce great bodily injury.

(15) Discharge of a firearm into an inhabited or occupied building.

(16) Any offense described in Section 1203.09 of the Penal Code.

(17) Any offense described in Section 12022.5 or 12022.53 of the Penal Code.

(18) Any felony offense in which the minor personally used a weapon listed in subdivision (a) of Section 12020 of the Penal Code.

(19) Any felony offense described in Section 136.1 or 137 of the Penal Code.

(20) Manufacturing, compounding, or selling one-half ounce or more of any salt or solution of a controlled substance specified in subdivision (e) of Section 11055 of the Health and Safety Code.

(21) Any violent felony, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 667.5 of the Penal Code, which would also constitute a felony violation of subdivision (b) of Section 186.22 of the Penal Code.

(22) Escape, by the use of force or violence, from any county juvenile hall, home, ranch, camp, or forestry camp in violation of subdivision (b) of Section 871 where great bodily injury is intentionally inflicted upon an employee of the juvenile facility during the commission of the escape.

(23) Torture as described in Sections 206 and 206.1 of the Penal Code.

(24) Aggravated mayhem, as described in Section 205 of the Penal Code.

(25) Carjacking, as described in Section 215 of the Penal Code, while armed with a dangerous or deadly weapon.

(26) Kidnapping, as punishable in subdivision (d) of Section 208 of the Penal Code.

(27) Kidnapping, as punishable in Section 209.5 of the Penal Code.

(28) The offense described in subdivision (c) of Section 12034 of the Penal Code.

(29) The offense described in Section 12308 of the Penal Code.

(30) Voluntary manslaughter, as described in subdivision (a) of Section 192 of the Penal Code.

That's some pretty serious stuff. So what did you guys do?

[technique]

Everything of mine (firearm related) was dropped to vandalism. Shooting outside of city limits at stuff you shouldn't shoot at.

Interestingly enough though...(22) I was never charged with...Morgan hill, Ca. I "escaped" (there are no fences) from the James Boys Ranch.

(14) was dropped to Battery (?) maybe...a misdemeanor.





I was "booked" on the highest of the high
Without too much detail...the guy was only "clinically dead" in transit to the hospital. So until he was out of ICU...the charge was the big "M".
the "victim" was later arrested for attempted murder and the guy who stabbed him with his own knife, and I were released...it was deemed self defense. All within less than 24 hours and no lawyer. Though we were booked it also never affected a background check.

[fourdoorchevelle]

technically robbery

what happened , I told some one to hand over their bicycle

now that i look back , it has been completely worth it

i am not proud , in fact i am very embarrassed. Only thing I can do now, is prove I have learned my lesson by continuing to live an exemplary life and do what is right on a day to day basis. That being said a judge thought I have reformed and granted my request to seal my record.

[Seesm]

Sucks that being a retard when your young can and will haunt you later in life...

[TenSeven]

Sucks that being a retard when your young can and will haunt you later in life...

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[TenSeven]

technically robbery

what happened , I told some one to hand over their bicycle

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