Questions Just for the Sake of Discussion

[Bruce]

Since muzzleloaders are not legally considered firearms, if one were to carry, say a Colt 1851 Navy or one of the other reproductions concealed, would it be a 12025 violation? For that matter,would the same revolver carried openly and loaded be a 12031 violation.
Please note, I am not advocating either action just posing the questions for discussion purposes only.

[Librarian]

Muzzle loaders are firearms in the 12001 sense:

12001. (a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
"revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
(2) As used in this title, the term "handgun" means any "pistol,"
"revolver," or "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person."
(b) As used in this title, "firearm" means any device, designed to
be used as a weapon, from which is expelled through a barrel, a
projectile by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion.

It's only in the transfer sense that antiques are not 'firearms'

(e) For purposes of Sections 12070, 12071, and paragraph (8) of
subdivision (a), and subdivisions (b), (c), (d), and (f) of Section
12072, the term "firearm" does not include an unloaded firearm that
is defined as an "antique firearm" in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18
of the United States Code.

Yes, it would be a 12031 violation, since that is specified in (g)

... except that a muzzle-loader firearm shall be
deemed to be loaded when it is capped or primed and has a powder
charge and ball or shot in the barrel or cylinder.

So, a muzzle-loader with a barrel longer than 16" is, by definition, not concealable, so you might get a moderate blunderbuss legally under your coat, but it still couldn't legally be loaded in public.

[DedEye]

Funny, I just updated the Antique Firearms section of the CGF Wiki about that very topic earlier tonight .

I did not include nearly as much info.

Librarian, if you please ?

[Army]

You can carry it loaded all you want...just don't cap it.

[motorhead]

in other states this exception is used by truckers to carry loaded in vehicles.