If SHTF and SB2 take effect on Jan 1st.

[Dvrjon]

Hopefully the IA's will apply the above consistently. I saw in the CoCoCo thread that even if you have an application in before 1/1/2024, after 1/1/2024, if you don't have the permit in hand, you have to 'requalify' under the new requirements. But, we have yet to see how they actually do this.

That would not appear to conform to the law.

[XDJYo]

That would not appear to conform to the law.

Agreed. I put a post in the CoCoCo thread as a heads up.

[Palmaris]

The rules for issuance change after midnight on New Year's Eve.
If the licensing authority received the completed application for a new license or a license renewal before that, the pre-SB 2 rules apply.

The statute does not define "completed", but is certainly before "approved."

Thanks a lot!!! This changes a lot!

[Dvrjon]

Thanks a lot!!! This changes a lot!

This has been in print since Jan 31, 2023, and if one followed RickyB?s guidance to review the previously failed SB 918, it was included in that effort.

For the record, the current (until 1/1/2024) rules are:

26205. The licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this article is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 90 days of the initial application for a new license or a license renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant?s criminal background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later. If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied.

The new language extends the notice of approval/denial for initial applications from 90 to 120 days from the receipt of the completed application rather than the initial application. The 30 days for notification of renewal approval/denial continues. However, the requirement to state the reason for denial has been removed.

SB 2 amendments:

26205. (a) Unless otherwise specified in subdivision (b), the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this article chapter is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 90 120 days of receiving the initial completed application for a new license or a license renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant?s criminal background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later. If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied. information and report from the Department of Justice described in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 26185, whichever is later.

[Palmaris]

This has been in print since Jan 31, 2023, and if one followed RickyB?s guidance to review the previously failed SB 918, it was included in that effort.

For the record, the current (until 1/1/2024) rules are:The new language extends the notice of approval/denial for initial applications from 90 to 120 days from the receipt of the completed application rather than the initial application. The 30 days for notification of renewal approval/denial continues. However, the requirement to state the reason for denial has been removed.

SB 2 amendments:

For me reading whole thing is real torture! I am dealing with technical English all day and on the end of the day-read lawyers language just impossible. So, I really thankful for help.

[clb]

What do you mean by






If?

I hope you got an answer from the participants here...
Cuz my i.a. said all bets are off last year.

[AlmostHeaven]

What do you mean by

If?

I hope you got an answer from the participants here...
Cuz my i.a. said all bets are off last year.

Some provisions may get preliminarily enjoined before taking effect.

[Supersapper]

If I will need to do difference between what I already did (everything per LAPD web site process) and new requirements, most likely I will just do NOTHING and process will be canceled since I will not provide required documents. I do not think anybody can force me to complete process if I decided to do it. I will loose $53, it is Ok

I think Post #55 by Dvrjon sums it up nicely, but it will depend on whether or not your IA is going to follow it. That's why I said what I said.

Remember...Kalifornia has a tendency to do whatever it wants, regardless of the law.

[AlmostHeaven]

As with all matters related to gun rights in California, living in an urban metropolitan area will result in a very different set of experiences with the real-world effects of SB2, compared to residing in an exurban or rural county.

[Palmaris]

I called LAPD CCW unit, I explained clerk my case and her respond was ?no grandfathering?, everything after New Year will be by new rules even if interview and application was turned in way before 1.1.24. But right away she told me that LAPD doesn?t know yet what to do and how to do, they still trying to figure out. In the mean time, that was clerk, so, she might know nothing at all. I just share what I heard from conversation with clerk.
It does controversy to the letter of the law, post #55, in my opinion.

[Dvrjon]

I called LAPD CCW unit, I explained clerk my case and her respond was ?no grandfathering?, everything after New Year will be by new rules even if interview and application was turned in way before 1.1.24. But right away she told me that LAPD doesn?t know yet what to do and how to do, they still trying to figure out. In the mean time, that was clerk, so, she might know nothing at all. I just share what I heard from conversation with clerk.
It does controversy to the letter of the law, post #55, in my opinion.

Why talk to the phone clerk?

If you must absolutely know, help them out.

Send them an email asking if they will follow the guidance of California Penal Code 26205(b), as modified by SB 2, and approve or deny an application for a new license by applying the statutory requirements in effect as of the date they received the completed application.

That gives them the specific question and helpfully directs their attention to the code section before they respond with some more mindless BS.

Best.

[Palmaris]

Why talk to the phone clerk?

If you must absolutely know, help them out.

Send them an email asking if they will follow the guidance of California Penal Code 26205(b), as modified by SB 2, and approve or deny an application for a new license by applying the statutory requirements in effect as of the date they received the completed application.

That gives them the specific question and helpfully directs their attention to the code section before they respond with some more mindless BS.

Best.

I called for different reason and since was on the phone already, ask that too.
I will send specific question as you suggested, but little bit later. I want to wait for 35 days after my interview. There is nothing specific about this number 35, just what I decided to do.
Thx a lot for your help!!!