If SHTF and SB2 take effect on Jan 1st.

[Palmaris]

Under my interpretation of the provisions of SB2, pending applications will not be exempt from the impending new issuance requirements.

Can you please site where I can read that.
At which point it will be cut off?

[Supersapper]

Not sure if I will agree. Most likely-No.

I'm curious...with what part do you disagree?

[Palmaris]

I'm curious...with what part do you disagree?

Whole entire thing.

[Palmaris]

I'm curious...with what part do you disagree?

I answer your question, now tell us what are you disagree with?

[Supersapper]

I answer your question, now tell us what are you disagree with?

Not sure where you're coming from. I simply answered your question in Post #41, and you replied that you most likely disagreed with me. Not sure what you were disagreeing with as you asked for opinions and I gave one. Nonetheless, you disagreed, so I was curious what you were disagreeing with. You said the whole thing, but I am still a bit confused as to your whole line.

You asked for opinions to your questions, not for comments to your position. Not sure why you're asking me what I am disagreeing with.

[Palmaris]

Not sure where you're coming from. I simply answered your question in Post #41, and you replied that you most likely disagreed with me. Not sure what you were disagreeing with as you asked for opinions and I gave one. Nonetheless, you disagreed, so I was curious what you were disagreeing with. You said the whole thing, but I am still a bit confused as to your whole line.

You asked for opinions to your questions, not for comments to your position. Not sure why you're asking me what I am disagreeing with.

You got confused-I wasn?t disagree with you, opposite I am thankful for your input. I am sorry for misunderstanding. I disagree with what state can/will do. I disagree if new terms/requirements will apply and will not finish process.
You wrote: ? It's the government. I would bet that you will have to agree to the new regulations, or they give you back everything and say "Have a nice day". This is what I was disagree with-accept new regulations.

[Supersapper]

I answer your question, now tell us what are you disagree with?

I was confused...you were asking what I was disagreeing with.

You got confused-I wasn?t disagree with you, opposite I am thankful for your input. I am sorry for misunderstanding. I disagree with what state can/will do. I disagree if new terms/requirements will apply and will not finish process.
You wrote: ? It's the government. I would bet that you will have to agree to the new regulations, or they give you back everything and say "Have a nice day". This is what I was disagree with-accept new regulations.

I kind of gathered when you said it. I think however, that this state will likely force one of those two options. I can NOT see this state saying anything about grandfathering those who had their application in prior to 31DEC23 but were still waiting. I really think the state will push the new regs to those who have not completed the process prior to the end of December. But...we can hope.

[Palmaris]

I was confused...you were asking what I was disagreeing with.



I kind of gathered when you said it. I think however, that this state will likely force one of those two options. I can NOT see this state saying anything about grandfathering those who had their application in prior to 31DEC23 but were still waiting. I really think the state will push the new regs to those who have not completed the process prior to the end of December. But...we can hope.

If I will need to do difference between what I already did (everything per LAPD web site process) and new requirements, most likely I will just do NOTHING and process will be canceled since I will not provide required documents. I do not think anybody can force me to complete process if I decided to do it. I will loose $53, it is Ok

[Rickybillegas]

The best thing to do is contact/email your Issuing agency and ask this question about applications in process before 1/1/24.

I seem to remember last year when SB918 was going through approval (with urgency) that those applications in process would not be disrupted.
However, don't rely on my memory. If you want, go through the old SB918 thread, because this subject came up.

Better yet, call your IA.

[Dvrjon]

SB 918 is irrelevant; it failed.

Everybody needs to be reading the law that was passed!

See SB 2; Section 22 regarding CA PEN 26205:

SEC. 22. Section 26205 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

26205. (a) Unless otherwise specified in subdivision (b), the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this chapter is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 120 days of receiving the completed application for a new license, or 30 days after receipt of the information and report from the Department of Justice described in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 26185, whichever is later. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 120 days of receiving the completed application for a license renewal.

(b) In determining whether to approve or deny an application for a new license or a license renewal the licensing authority shall apply the statutory requirements in effect as of the date the licensing authority received the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, except for the requirements in former paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Sections 26150, 26155, and 26170. {Those are Good Cause requirements}

For applications for a new license submitted prior to the effective date of the act that added this subdivision, the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this chapter is approved or denied within 120 days of receiving the completed application, or 30 days after receipt of the information and report from the Department of Justice described in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 26185, whichever is later.

(c) If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied.

(Paragraph breaks added.)

[chris]

A CCW permit will be worthless if SB2 isn't enjoined. Why bother?

yeah no kidding SB2 is a middle finger to Bruen.

[AlmostHeaven]

yeah no kidding SB2 is a middle finger to Bruen.

8 states have embarked on a campaign of massive resistance against Second Amendment jurisprudence.

[Palmaris]

SB 918 is irrelevant; it failed.

Everybody needs to be reading the law that was passed!

See SB 2; Section 22 regarding CA PEN 26205Paragraph breaks added.)

Sorry for my English. I really need help to understand. From what I read I understood, if my application was accepted before SB2 (October 23rd) kicks in, I am still on requirements before SB2, current requirements. So to speak-I am OK. Am I right?

[XDJYo]

SB 918 is irrelevant; it failed.

Everybody needs to be reading the law that was passed!

See SB 2; Section 22 regarding CA PEN 26205:

SEC. 22. Section 26205 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

26205. (a) Unless otherwise specified in subdivision (b), the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this chapter is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 120 days of receiving the completed application for a new license, or 30 days after receipt of the information and report from the Department of Justice described in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 26185, whichever is later. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 120 days of receiving the completed application for a license renewal.

(b) In determining whether to approve or deny an application for a new license or a license renewal the licensing authority shall apply the statutory requirements in effect as of the date the licensing authority received the completed application for a new license or a license renewal, except for the requirements in former paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Sections 26150, 26155, and 26170. {Those are Good Cause requirements}

For applications for a new license submitted prior to the effective date of the act that added this subdivision, the licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this chapter is approved or denied within 120 days of receiving the completed application, or 30 days after receipt of the information and report from the Department of Justice described in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section 26185, whichever is later.

(c) If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied.

(Paragraph breaks added.)

Hopefully the IA's will apply the above consistently. I saw in the CoCoCo thread that even if you have an application in before 1/1/2024, after 1/1/2024, if you don't have the permit in hand, you have to 'requalify' under the new requirements. But, we have yet to see how they actually do this.

[Dvrjon]

Sorry for my English. I really need help to understand. From what I read I understood, if my application was accepted before SB2 (October 23rd) kicks in, I am still on requirements before SB2, current requirements. So to speak-I am OK. Am I right?

The rules for issuance change after midnight on New Year's Eve.
If the licensing authority received the completed application for a new license or a license renewal before that, the pre-SB 2 rules apply.

The statute does not define "completed", but is certainly before "approved."