Prohibit licensed gun dealers from selling semiautomatic pistols without microstamps

[Zenderfall]

If they allowed real journalists into the signing ceremony today, surely someone will have asked Bonta how his legal team just surrendered the microstamping in the Boland case and yet here Newscum is signing microstamping yet again.

And his response would be something along the lines of “we make the laws and you follow them,” the same trash response they always give.

[DCoakley]

This seems like they are playing the blame game. What I mean is this takes affect in 2028 so they will blame gun manufactures for not inventing microstamping and further push their ideology that firearm manufactures and gun owners are monsters. Trying to think like a lib hurts my head.

[FourT6and2]

This seems like they are playing the blame game. What I mean is this takes affect in 2028 so they will blame gun manufactures for not inventing microstamping and further push their ideology that firearm manufactures and gun owners are monsters. Trying to think like a lib hurts my head.

Correct. Not to mention microstamping is silly to begin with because you know... you can just change out the firing pin (which is where the micro stamp would presumably be). Whoever thought up the idea of stamping a signature into the primer using the firing pin was a moron. Gonna pierce primers all day too.

After this law goes into effect, they're gonna pass a law that makes aftermarket/third party/replacement firing pins illegal. And firing pins are going to be serialized just like the "firearm" part of a gun. Break a firing pin? Too bad. Will have to DROS one and wait 10 days.

[CSACANNONEER]

Then the only handgun you could buy from a dealer, would be a revolver.

Are you saying that the only handguns that are not semi auto are non semi auto revolvers? Yes, there are semi auto revolvers. Also, there are many non revolver handguns which are NOT semi auto so, in the end, you're just wrong.

[Zenderfall]

After this law goes into effect, they're gonna pass a law that makes aftermarket/third party/replacement firing pins illegal. And firing pins are going to be serialized just like the "firearm" part of a gun. Break a firing pin? Too bad. Will have to DROS one and wait 10 days.

Shhhhh! Don’t give them any ideas!!!!!

[Vindag]

Are you saying that the only handguns that are not semi auto are non semi auto revolvers? Yes, there are semi auto revolvers. Also, there are many non revolver handguns which are NOT semi auto so, in the end, you're just wrong.

What in the world are you even talking about? Did you even bother to read all the posts? If you read my posts, I was inquiring about this new 2028 law that didn't get as much attention as the other bills Newsom signed. I wasn't sure exactly what the law entailed. So, I responded to someone who said that all semi auto pistols, that are on the FFL books needed the microstamping in 2028 to be transferred. Does that mean the dealers can just sell revolvers, if there are no semi auto handguns micro stamped?

[SpudmanWP]

Break a firing pin? Too bad. Will have to DROS one and wait 10 days.

ICYMI, you now have to wait 30 days.

[FourT6and2]

ICYMI, you now have to wait 30 days.

Yes and no. The bill's intent is that if DOJ runs into a problem within the normal 10-day wait, they can extend to 30 days, whereas up until now, they've been required to clear the purchase. But, I can see a world in which the DOJ uses that as a way to just make everybody wait 30 days by claiming they needed more time.

[OlderThanDirt]

This bill would remove from the definition of an unsafe handgun a semiautomatic pistol without a microstamping component, as specified, and would prohibit, commencing on January 1, 2028, a licensed firearms dealer from selling, offering for sale, exchanging, giving, transferring, or delivering a semiautomatic pistol, as defined, unless the pistol has been verified as a microstamping-enabled pistol

So, read the text very carefully. No FFL transfers of non- micro-stamped semiautomatic pistols will be allowed. This would include PPT based on the transfer prohibition. Oplaw/interfamilial transfers seem to be the only options since they don?t involve an FFL.

[Subotai]

So, read the text very carefully. No FFL transfers of non- micro-stamped semiautomatic pistols will be allowed. This would include PPT based on the transfer prohibition. Oplaw/interfamilial transfers seem to be the only options since they don?t involve an FFL.

[socalgunowner909]

I feel bad for the people who want to start a collection and will have to deal with this nonsense. Its already hard enough to find good guns at a decent price.

[DrewN]

The reason microstamping is stupid isn't that it's easily defeated, it's the entire concept of solving crimes from fired brass. I'll bet there haven't been 10 crimes in history solved by toolmarks on fired brass.

[bool1tholz]

So, read the text very carefully. No FFL transfers of non- micro-stamped semiautomatic pistols will be allowed. This would include PPT based on the transfer prohibition. Oplaw/interfamilial transfers seem to be the only options since they don?t involve an FFL.

I *think* PPT is still exempted. My first read I came to your conclusion but I looked at the exemptions and it lists 28050 transactions. PC28050 covers Private party firearms transactions.

27533. (a) Commencing on January 1, 2028, if the department has determined that microstamping components, microstamping-enabled semi-automatic firearms, or both microstamping components and microstamping-enabled firearms are available pursuant to subdivision (e) of Section 27532, it shall be unlawful for a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, to sell, offer for sale, exchange, give, transfer, or deliver any semiautomatic pistol unless the pistol has been certified as a microstamping-enabled pistol as defined in Section 27531. ...
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(e) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) A pistol manufactured or delivered to a firearms dealer prior to January 1, 2028.
(2) A transaction conducted through a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050) of this division.

[OlderThanDirt]

I *think* PPT is still exempted. My first read I came to your conclusion but I looked at the exemptions and it lists 28050 transactions. PC28050 covers Private party firearms transactions.

I think you are right, but the wording is very odd. It's almost like it was written for a quick amendment that would allow additional restrictions.

[ldsnet]

The micro-stamping component of the existing roster provision has been ruled unconstitutional twice in Federal court, as both cases move to Appeal....How do we get those existing cases amended to include this new law so we don't have to litigate it yet again?