What right do we have in shaping our disaster response? I just read on Wiki that Arnold Schwarzenegger was/is in talks with Blackwater to provide potential post earthquake disaster security in California? I understand its Wikipedia and veracity of that statement is questionable, lets move to the hypothetical and say what if. I certainly would not want anybody but the police/national guard handling security.
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"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.Originally posted by indiandaveIn Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime. -
"Liberals hate America, they hate "flag-wavers," they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."
"If gays can't change, why do liberals think child molesters can?"
Originally posted by AJAX22Its the liberal fallacy.... "All men are equal, except for me, cause I know what is good for you better than you do."Comment
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Arnie already signed a bill saying there won't be any citizen disarmament like happened in Katrina, right? Now, I know that's not necessarily saying much, but it gives a certain peace of mind.
I'd prefer a bill stating that following a natural disaster, citizens who are securing food/water/shelter can carry loaded firearms. Then give the National Guard a vacation.Comment
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Bloodbath awaits those who try.
How that was avoided in Katrina times, I don't know.
But it makes me wonder how many people gave LE the impression that they would have a firefight on their hands if they went any further and the LE backed off.Comment
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Yeah but private security are NOT leo or military therefore should be okay to defend your family from them if they threaten you with violence, after all if they are regular citizens then if they are doing stuff like that then they are just regular criminals as well. On the other hand how well would any regular armed citizen be able to stand up against mercenaries like Blackwater? It's a difficult catch 22 that could probably be endlessly debated but no one would really know how it would play out until it happened. Let's hope it never does.-POLICESTATE,
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If it's inside your house, not too hard, though it would make your life much more difficult. Have all doors and windows secured, and simply don't show them that you are home. If they try to push in, start on more offensive defenseYeah but private security are NOT leo or military therefore should be okay to defend your family from them if they threaten you with violence, after all if they are regular citizens then if they are doing stuff like that then they are just regular criminals as well. On the other hand how well would any regular armed citizen be able to stand up against mercenaries like Blackwater? It's a difficult catch 22 that could probably be endlessly debated but no one would really know how it would play out until it happened. Let's hope it never does.
Trying to raid a well defended home can be very difficult. And I doubt blackwater would be cruising around with full on concussion grenades, door breaching tools, etc... A SWAT team with correct planning and tools is one thing, roving squads of "peace keeping" contractors is another entirely.Comment
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Know your neighbors and group up.Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Originally posted by dieselpowerIts very rare LEO encounter some armed crazy who is going to kill them, but it happens enough to warrant their training....... And its rare to encounter LEO willing to lie, cheat and falsify testimony, but it happens enough to warrant invoking all your rights the second you are stopped.Comment
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Agree with you, but you don't understand, New Orleans Police is uniquely....corrupt/ineffective as hell. I can't look up names right now, but the NYC police chief that seriously cleaned up NY under Mayor Giuliani was asked to do the same in New Orleans. Like six months into it, he gave up trying to reform the NO PD.
I believe whole heartedly, that my local PD is much more professional and of higher caliber
Originally posted by Shotgun ManSorry, but I can't help but get a homo-erotic vibe from this thread.Comment
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LOL!!!
I live in LA right on the border of West Hollywood. If some of my liberal anti-gun poop-head neighbors even knew that I had guns, they would probably group up against ME.
But I agree with you, given that you had the right kind of neighbors, that would be a good idea.Comment
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I dunno, I think they'd just spray down your house from top to bottom with their automatic weapons and burn your house down. Maybe even a satchel charge. Why bother breaking in? Easy enough to say they took some rounds from such and such home and returned fire. Their word against.....If it's inside your house, not too hard, though it would make your life much more difficult. Have all doors and windows secured, and simply don't show them that you are home. If they try to push in, start on more offensive defense
Trying to raid a well defended home can be very difficult. And I doubt blackwater would be cruising around with full on concussion grenades, door breaching tools, etc... A SWAT team with correct planning and tools is one thing, roving squads of "peace keeping" contractors is another entirely.Originally posted by Shotgun ManSorry, but I can't help but get a homo-erotic vibe from this thread.Comment
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Yep. Gus saw a muzzle flash. Had to be a bad guy.I dunno, I think they'd just spray down your house from top to bottom with their automatic weapons and burn your house down. Maybe even a satchel charge. Why bother breaking in? Easy enough to say they took some rounds from such and such home and returned fire. Their word against.....
Snake and nape on my command.Comment
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Originally Posted by Wherryj
I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?Comment
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