Denied PPT in SD...Isn't that illegal?

[snobord99]

I'm definitely open to hearing both sides of the story, but in all honesty, I have a hard time imagining what she could have done here to warrant not doing a PPT. I imagine her request for a PPT was followed by either a yes or no. I don't see why there would be a problem if they said yes and if the store said no first, they were wrong to start with.

if something happened before the "I want to do a PPT," then that's a whole other story (one I'd love to hear from both sides).

[kermit315]

I did an independent inquiry into this matter and was provided with another version of the op's conduct. I was specifically asked to not speak on behalf of the store and to not publish their side of the story, but I must say I am disappointed to read that some of you are so quick to accept one side of a story without doing your own due dilligence or without listening to both sides.

so, either put the information out there, or let people make their minds up based on the information present. And, its not really surprising that you got another story, they arent going to throw themselves under the bus.

Refusing to do a PPT is pretty black and white, and if the store knows this thread exists and chooses not to come on here to clear the air, then they must not be too worried about what people think of them.

[MiguelS]

I did an independent inquiry into this matter and was provided with another version of the op's conduct. I was specifically asked to not speak on behalf of the store and to not publish their side of the story, but I must say I am disappointed to read that some of you are so quick to accept one side of a story without doing your own due dilligence or without listening to both sides.

Thanks for hiding the truth.

Keep it a secret.

[RandyD]

The main purpose of my post was to state that there was another side of this story.

To kermit315 and MiguelS did you read the following statement in my post;"I was specifically asked to not speak on behalf of the store and to not publish their side of the story." I am simply keeping the confidence that was entrusted to me. If you are so curious, stop being critical of me for not disclosing it, and do your own due dilligence, its really quite simple.

[KylaGWolf]

Randy the whole point is legally they cannot refuse to do a PPT. If they do they are in violation of the law. Nothing they can say to the contrary will change that fact.

[RandyD]

KylaGWolf, I read all of the posts and understand that point. I am not defending the store, I am simply saying that there is another side to this event that has not been disclosed and until that is know there is reason enough to withhold judgment. The owner of the store should explain his reasonings for his decision.

[halifax]

OK, I'll take a shot at this mystery: The owner of the store thinks the OP is dealing without a license because she is selling too many guns to be considered occasional sales. Rightly or wrongly, I suppose he does have the right to choose not to participate in what he sees as a possible illegal activity.

Just a guess.

[motorhead]

so where is the other side? in court if you don't show up to defend your case you lose by default. they harm their cause by playing the "big friggin secret" game. there are always 2 sides to every story. whether both matter is subject for discussion. a member posted here with a valid complaint.

[hooookup]

Spoke with the DOJ this morning in a follow up to a previous contact I had with them and I asked them if they were aware of the Fine Firearms guys refusing to do PPT's and the guy I was speaking with said he was well aware and they were going to be paying them a visit as well. He reiterated that it is a violation of the law for an FFL to deny an individual a PPT. Apparently, they've been following this thread.

[DTOM CA!]

Spoke with the DOJ this morning in a follow up to a previous contact I had with them and I asked them if they were aware of the Fine Firearms guys refusing to do PPT's and the guy I was speaking with said he was well aware and they were going to be paying them a visit as well. He reiterated that it is a violation of the law for an FFL to deny an individual a PPT. Apparently, they've been following this thread.

Is this true ? Welcome DOJ. I think it would be great for them to have a Representative to respond on CG. I would think that if suspected someone doing a PPT for illegal means you would need to report it right away ? I was trying to think of a reason to deny a PPT. Can you refuse if they have Nazi tatoos all over or are dressed like a Blood gang member ? How about if they resemble Boxer or Fienstien ? jk.

[motorhead]

no shoes, no shirt, no ppt!

[chaled]

Irons Sites in Oceanside will do PPT's. Take 5 north, 76 East, about 2min east on your left side before the airport.

[sausage450r]

i've done 3 ppts at discount in el cajon in the past 2 months. no problems. I shoot there as well, and have purchased new firearms from them. they have great prices. and i've usually purchased other items when doing a PPT (grips, snapcaps, etc.). I can understand how it may be a pain for some places if they are busy with customers they are making more money from. but if you find a shop you like. establish yourself as a regular, and you will be treated well from my experiences.