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  • SoCalGal
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 56

    Denied PPT in SD...Isn't that illegal?

    I am new here and I have truly appreciated everyone's info on the site. Thank you!
    I am seeking advice now...(Wasn't sure where to post this.)
    Today I was denied a PPT by the owner of Fine Firearms in La Mesa. I was surprised because I thought all licensed dealers are supposed to honor a PPT. Am I wrong?
    The guys that I had met there before always seemed happy to take the time to talk with me and look at what I had, and they even told me about Calguns. They had warned me that other local dealers may try to take advantage of me. -I knew I was at risk of being taken advantage of since I am a young woman new to this world, but I thought they were honest and I could trust them.
    I understand the process is a pain for dealers because it can take a while and they don't make much money, but I had done two ppt's there before and it always went really fast (about 30min or less). I always tried to respect them each time I went in to do a PPT by making sure they weren't too busy first and I was always patient. I figured I could consign (or outright sell) the guns that I was unable to sell privately to their store. The guys were always so nice that I was trying to think of something nice to do for them in return.

    I went in today to do another transfer, and met the owner for the first time. I had brought in four guns to consign and one to do a private party transfer with, but he told me he wouldn't do the transfer. He said he knew who I was and that the guys had only spent time with me because they thought I would consign my guns with them, but "that's obviously not the case." He was really rude and I was shocked to receive such awful treatment.
    I was also embarrassed because I had recommended their shop to everyone I met, including the guy that came down from LA to meet me.

    I had been warned that some greedy dealers might give me a hard time about doing PPTs but I thought I could trust the guys there.
    I thought I was actually helping them by bringing more customers into his shop (I was usually the only person there) but he said that everyone in San Diego knows his store and the people I brought in wouldn't buy anything from him since they were buying something from me. -The guy I had brought in today had never even heard of the store and was interested in one of their handguns until he saw how awful the owner was.
    When I mentioned that I thought it was the law to honor a PPT, he told me to call the DOJ.
    What do I tell the DOJ?
    Is there a place in SD that won't give me a hard time with this? I am happy to go in whenever it is convenient for the dealer. I am just trying to obey the law and do this right without being taken advantage of. Part of me feels like I should just put all the guns back in the safe and forget about them for a while, but part of me has hope that there are actually nice FFL's willing to help. I want my grandpa's guns to go to someone who will appreciate them instead of just collecting dust.
    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
  • #2
    professionalcoyotehunter
    Banned
    • Nov 2008
    • 12805

    Dont go back there.

    Wrong Forum.
    Last edited by professionalcoyotehunter; 07-29-2009, 4:40 PM.

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    • #3
      Street_soldier
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 360

      What kind of firearms do you have for sale

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      • #4
        OofieXD
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 553

        Try Gussler's. You might have to give him a call to set an appointment since he works out of his house, but he'll do a PPT for you no problems.

        Gussler's
        phone: (619) 258-2543
        email: gusslers@gmail.com
        Santee, CA 92071

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        • #5
          7.62x54R
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1602

          wow that sucks. sorry i don't have any information i could give since i am fairly new to the gun hobby as well. I'm sure other Calgunners will. Just go to another dealer would be my advice. good luck
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          • #6
            norcal77
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Feb 2009
            • 4231

            This is in the wrong forum..it should be in general gun discussions..you will get more answers there.

            My advice..call the DOJ and let them know that he denied the PPT. They are required to process the paperwork..whether they like it or not. The license wasn't given to them solely to make a profit..they do have some legal obligations.
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            • #7
              1811
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 2045

              Last year...I walked into SoCal gun and Turner's with a bubble wrapped AR-stripped lower...

              I was turned down as soon as I put that piece of plutonium nitro oxide onto the counter...

              And we we're both LEO's doing a PPT.

              Went to Discount Gun...no probs...

              +1 on Gusslers...
              "Do you like RAP music?" - Axel Foley

              Originally posted by ysr_racer
              If you want a shotty, why not buy a Remy or a Mossy? That's what my mommy shoots.

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              • #8
                ChaparralCommando
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 475

                Wow; I've lived in San Diego Co. my whole life and hadn't heard of them, and now I'm not going there. If they charge a fee to do a PPT, what's the big deal?! Some people are just irrational.

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                • #9
                  Digital_Boy
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 910

                  I second the recommendation for Gussler's. There are any number of other alternatives if driving to Santee is not convenient for you either. What part of town are you in?
                  Originally posted by sierratangofoxtrotunion:

                  Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

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                  • #10
                    6266guy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1473

                    Add that place to the no go list another thing check into doing a consignment sale at any FFL ....you have to sigh over your guns to them, and if by any reason you decide not to sell them or let's say that they don't sell...you have to pay to DROS each one of them back into your name, really sucks, just sell them private party , much less hassle

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                    • #11
                      jvquattro
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 138

                      I would also vouch for Gusslers and Turners in Clairemont.

                      The shop you went to I would stay away from and also Discount downtown they won't do it either.

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                      • #12
                        6266guy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1473

                        OR JUST GIVE EM TO ME ...and I will sell em for you...lol...

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                        • #13
                          OofieXD
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 553

                          From my experience, try to stay away from SoCal gun on Convoy, they might do a PPT if they feel like it.

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                          • #14
                            AGOD
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 24

                            Originally posted by SoCalGal
                            I am new here and I have truly appreciated everyone's info on the site. Thank you!
                            I am seeking advice now...(Wasn't sure where to post this.)
                            Today I was denied a PPT by the owner of Fine Firearms in La Mesa. I was surprised because I thought all licensed dealers are supposed to honor a PPT. Am I wrong?
                            The guys that I had met there before always seemed happy to take the time to talk with me and look at what I had, and they even told me about Calguns. They had warned me that other local dealers may try to take advantage of me. -I knew I was at risk of being taken advantage of since I am a young woman new to this world, but I thought they were honest and I could trust them.
                            I understand the process is a pain for dealers because it can take a while and they don't make much money, but I had done two ppt's there before and it always went really fast (about 30min or less). I always tried to respect them each time I went in to do a PPT by making sure they weren't too busy first and I was always patient. I figured I could consign (or outright sell) the guns that I was unable to sell privately to their store. The guys were always so nice that I was trying to think of something nice to do for them in return.

                            I went in today to do another transfer, and met the owner for the first time. I had brought in four guns to consign and one to do a private party transfer with, but he told me he wouldn't do the transfer. He said he knew who I was and that the guys had only spent time with me because they thought I would consign my guns with them, but "that's obviously not the case." He was really rude and I was shocked to receive such awful treatment.
                            I was also embarrassed because I had recommended their shop to everyone I met, including the guy that came down from LA to meet me.

                            I had been warned that some greedy dealers might give me a hard time about doing PPTs but I thought I could trust the guys there.
                            I thought I was actually helping them by bringing more customers into his shop (I was usually the only person there) but he said that everyone in San Diego knows his store and the people I brought in wouldn't buy anything from him since they were buying something from me. -The guy I had brought in today had never even heard of the store and was interested in one of their handguns until he saw how awful the owner was.
                            When I mentioned that I thought it was the law to honor a PPT, he told me to call the DOJ.
                            What do I tell the DOJ?
                            Is there a place in SD that won't give me a hard time with this? I am happy to go in whenever it is convenient for the dealer. I am just trying to obey the law and do this right without being taken advantage of. Part of me feels like I should just put all the guns back in the safe and forget about them for a while, but part of me has hope that there are actually nice FFL's willing to help. I want my grandpa's guns to go to someone who will appreciate them instead of just collecting dust.
                            Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
                            Go to IRON SIGHTS in oceanside, CA (760) 721-4388 Talk to Cris or terry
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                            • #15
                              hawk1
                              In Memoriam
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 7555

                              When I mentioned that I thought it was the law to honor a PPT, he told me to call the DOJ.
                              What do I tell the DOJ?
                              Call DOJ and explain exactly what happened and that you would expect DOJ to do something about it.

                              Part of being allowed to sell firearms in California means they must do PPT's. We all understand that $10 is not much, but when you add in the fact that they are given the privilege of selling firearms it adds up to more money. Something many dealers do want to recognize.
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