HUNT V. CA: Declaration of Ignatius Chinn

[Harbinger]

For the sake of the other people in the building, I hope that is a dummy grenade.

METAL Dummy grenades are illegal... even for DOJ agents. I guess we'll have to assume it's plastic.

1. PROHIBITED FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, AND RELATED DEVICES
It is unlawful for any person to own, possess, lend, manufacture, import, sell, or offer to
sell any short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle, any firearm that is not
immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any
cane or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any ammunition that contains or
consists of a flechette dart, any bullet that contains or carries an explosive agent,
any zip gun, any unconventional pistol, any multiburst trigger activator, any
nunchaku, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any lipstick
case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any ballistic knife,
any shuriken, any writing pen knife, and any metal military practice handgrenade
or metal replica handgrenade.

[Fate]

METAL Dummy grenades are illegal... even for DOJ agents. I guess we'll have to assume it's plastic.

1. PROHIBITED FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, AND RELATED DEVICES
It is unlawful for any person to own, possess, lend, manufacture, import, sell, or offer to
sell any short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle, any firearm that is not
immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any
cane or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any ammunition that contains or
consists of a flechette dart, any bullet that contains or carries an explosive agent,
any zip gun, any unconventional pistol, any multiburst trigger activator, any
nunchaku, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any lipstick
case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any ballistic knife,
any shuriken, any writing pen knife, and any metal military practice handgrenade
or metal replica handgrenade.

Keep reading:

(b)Subdivision(a) does not apply to any of the following:...

(15) Any plastic toy handgrenade, or any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade that is a relic, curio, memorabilia or display item, that is filled with a permanent inert substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in a manner that prevents ready modification for use as a grenade.

[Dont Tread on Me]

He looks a bit older in person, with more grey hair than those pictures show.

I guess those grey hairs appeared after he entered a FFL in Milpitias and saw a couple of hundred OLLs!

[Dont Tread on Me]

permanent inert substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in a manner that prevents ready modification for use as a grenade.

Back to "permanent" and I wonder how they define it in this case:-)

One thing I don't see is smoke grenades covered. They are not controlled at a federal level (tacticleresponse.com will sell them to you have to pick them up in person). I wonder if they are CA legal?

[Draven]

The SAS mag lock requires the removal of the spring altogether and does not disable the mag release button, but it replaces it entirely. The Prince50 kit can be installed with a spring in place, but I would advise against it, and in the dozens that I've installed, I've never used the spring with it.

My Prince 50 was installed with no spring in it. Everyone should build it this way, as it means that the allen wrench is not only required to remove the magazine, but also to get a magazine to stay in place after removal- i.e., a tool must be used to attach another magazine.

[xenophobe]

What if it were coauthored by members of the LEO community and endorsed by the NRA and the members of the State Senate and Assembly who are firearms-friendly?

I know what you're saying, Xeno, and it's a real problem, but unless WE do something, there's just going to continue to be a vacuum as far as educating LEO's goes - why not at least try to fill the vacuum with something that might do some good?

It still won't be official decree from DOJ or their own agency. It will not be required, and most police officers who aren't required to read it or have a copy will make the efforts pointless.

Imagine a group of motorists having their insurance companies draw up a guideline for a police officer to do a traffic stop. They can come up with a nice colorful brochure or set of instructions that street officers would never even know about, or wouldn't bother reading.

If it isn't recognized as official DOJ notice, part of official department policy, or even required reading, it will make little to no impact or difference.

[Aluisious]

My Prince 50 was installed with no spring in it. Everyone should build it this way, as it means that the allen wrench is not only required to remove the magazine, but also to get a magazine to stay in place after removal- i.e., a tool must be used to attach another magazine.

Smart thinking!

[1911_sfca]

Every time I think my opinion of the DOJ has bottomed out they seam to find some way to lower the bar again.

Oh, it's gonna get much lower.. just wait until Moonbeam takes office.

[kap]

I love the section when he cocks his AK. What was the point of that in the interview ... to show him off as a bad-*** DOJ guy that takes down gangsters?

[Archenemy550]

lol @ him trying to act Bad-***** with the AK

[NorCal MedTac]

I love the section when he cocks his AK. What was the point of that in the interview ... to show him off as a bad-*** DOJ guy that takes down gangsters?

Wheres the link to see that interview

[SemiAutoSam]

Here it is lets try to find out how many things in his office are illegal to possess ?

http://cbs5.com/video?cid=142

Wheres the link to see that interview

[kap]

Did anyone notice the fragmentation grenade on his shelf !



For the sake of the other people in the building, I hope that is a dummy grenade.

Especially with those two pistol grips right next to the grenade. Just think of how much more dangerous that grenade would be it it had a pistol grip attached to it.

[Dont Tread on Me]

Here it is lets try to find out how many things in his office are illegal to possess ?

http://cbs5.com/video?cid=142

I want to play but it looks like CBS pulled the video. Unfair.

[kap]

It is still there. You just have to click on the June 29th video listed on the right.

Actually I just saw that you could link directly to the video so try the link below.

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=14412@kpix.dayport.com