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  • ukdkbr
    Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 136

    US attempts to re-define switchblades - would make most pocket knives illegal

    Not quite the 2nd amendment but still interesting...

  • #2
    M. Sage
    Moderator Emeritus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2006
    • 19759

    Originally posted by ukdkbr
    Not quite the 2nd amendment but still interesting...

    http://www.kniferights.org/index.php...=76&Itemid=150
    How are knives not a 2A issue? Some knives are weapons.

    I know I've carried a knife as a tool and weapon for a long time.
    Originally posted by Deadbolt
    "We're here to take your land for your safety"

    "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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    • #3
      ukdkbr
      Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 136

      Originally posted by M. Sage
      How are knives not a 2A issue? Some knives are weapons.

      I know I've carried a knife as a tool and weapon for a long time.
      Well ... you never know, I wanted to avoid the "what does this have to do with firearms" comments. I agree with you thats why I posted it here.
      Last edited by ukdkbr; 06-07-2009, 10:15 PM.

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      • #4
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20786

        like they say if it can be used as a weapon it is a weapon

        assisted openers banned haa

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        • #5
          outersquare
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 255

          this is f'n ridiculous, can we revolt yet?
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          • #6
            ErikTheRed
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 1604

            Originally posted by outersquare
            this is f'n ridiculous, can we revolt yet?
            I'm just waiting for my orders. I'm ready. Sign me up.

            like they say if it can be used as a weapon it is a weapon
            Oh great. Now the Dems are gonna try to ban rocks, garden tools, tree branches, ball-point pens, chairs, fish hooks, rope, D-cell batteries, etc etc etc. Don't laugh, its probably coming. Liberals are that stupid.
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            • #7
              M. Sage
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2006
              • 19759

              Many yard sales are technically illegal now, too.
              Originally posted by Deadbolt
              "We're here to take your land for your safety"

              "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
              sigpicNRA Member

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              • #8
                kermit315
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2007
                • 5928

                Since when can customs and border patrol make anything illegal? I was under the impression that that would have to come from the elected critters.

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                • #9
                  CABilly
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1613

                  Originally posted by ukdkbr
                  Not quite the 2nd amendment but still interesting...

                  http://www.kniferights.org/index.php...=76&Itemid=150
                  I can't download anything at work. What is the issue, here? Is CBP asking for legislation, or do they have the power to declare legal items as illegal on their own?
                  Don't feed the cannibals.

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                  • #10
                    kermit315
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 5928

                    cut and pasted.

                    US ATTEMPTS TO RE-DEFINE SWITCHBLADES – WOULD MAKE MOST POCKET KNIVES ILLEGAL PDF Print E-mail

                    U.S. Customs & Border Protection (CBP) has proposed revoking earlier rulings that assisted opening knives are not switchblades. The proposed new rule would not only outlaw assisted opening knives, its broad definition of a switchblade would also include one-handed opening knives and could be easily interpreted to cover most other pocket knives, even simple old-fashioned slip-joints.

                    Note that CBP's interpretation of the Federal Switchblade Act forms the basis for national, state and even local law and judicial rulings in many cases. This ruling by CBP is NOT limited to just imports. This WILL affect virtually everyone who carries a pocket knife, no matter the type!

                    Download the 63 page CPB document and read it for yourself.

                    Knife Rights has sent a letter to CBP requesting an extension to the ridiculously short 30-day comment period. We need your help to make an impression on CBP. They figured that they could slip this by everyone with little notice. We need to let CBP know that they are not going to get away with it; that we noticed and we are not happy and that we will not stand by while they take away our pocket knives.

                    We are in for the fight of our lives. We need you to write CBP NOW!

                    Click here for a Model Letter you can send to CBP.

                    However, the reality is that CBP isn't required to listen to our demands, but they do have to answer to Congress. After you send a letter to CBP, giving them notice they are not going to sneak this by us, the next step is to inundate Congress with emails and letters.

                    If you want to be free to carry your pocket knives in the future, you need to write your Senators and Representative TODAY!

                    Click here for a Model Letter you can send to Members of Congress.

                    We have also prepared a Communicating with Congress page that includes tips to maximize the effect of your letters. This page was developed after consultation with experts who understand exactly how to get your message across to Members of Congress. We have also included easy links to find your Representatives, if you don't know who they are or the best way to reach them. How much of an impact your communication has can be significantly impacted by how and what you write. Our aim is to help maximize your impact so your Members of Congress actually listen and do something. PLEASE, take a few minutes to review our Communicating with Congress page BEFORE you act.

                    Knife Rights was formed three years ago because we knew it was only a matter of time before something like this would happen that would threaten to take away our right to own and carry our knives. Well, that time is now and we're working to help keep our essential tools and essential rights. We cannot do it without your help. Knife Rights is only as powerful as the forces we can bring to bear. You are the only truly effective weapon we have. Policitcans only listen to voters. NOW IS YOUR TIME TO ACT!

                    Because you are sending a hard copy letter and emails via Members' web forms, we won't know you did it unless you let us know. It is critical that we be able to know how many have responded, so please click here to send us an email (customs@Kniferights.org) to let us know you've sent the letter and emails.

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                    • #11
                      CABilly
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1613

                      I got that part, but I can't see the actual 63-page document. I guess I'm asking how they plan to change the current laws and what authority they possess to do so.
                      Don't feed the cannibals.

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                      • #12
                        sreiter
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1664

                        assisted open means something very specific in knife terms.

                        NO, the majority of folders are NOT assisted open

                        IMO (and i'm a knife [fighting] instructor) assisted are for all intents and purposes "auto's" (what the industry calls switch blades/stilettos...button activated)

                        for the record, i have yet to see a tactile knife that couldnt be opened almost or as fast as a auto

                        also for the record, none of them should be illegal
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                        • #13
                          sreiter
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1664

                          sigpic

                          "personal security, personal liberty, and private property"--could not be maintained solely by law, for "in vain would these rights be declared, ascertained, and protected by the dead letter of the laws, if the constitution had provided no other method to secure their actual enjoyment." -
                          William Blackstone

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                          • #14
                            pullnshoot25
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 8068

                            Originally posted by sreiter
                            assisted open means something very specific in knife terms.

                            NO, the majority of folders are NOT assisted open

                            IMO (and i'm a knife [fighting] instructor) assisted are for all intents and purposes "auto's" (what the industry calls switch blades/stilettos...button activated)

                            for the record, i have yet to see a tactile knife that couldnt be opened almost or as fast as a auto

                            also for the record, none of them should be illegal
                            I am pretty certain that my Spycerco Wave or Cold Steel Ti-Lite beats an auto knife on the draw.

                            Assisted knives are not button activated. They require that the blade be opened a certain amount. This is why they are called "assisted" knifes.

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                            • #15
                              sreiter
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1664

                              Originally posted by pullnshoot25
                              Assisted knives are not button activated. They require that the blade be opened a certain amount. This is why they are called "assisted" knifes.
                              i think i mentioned that in both my posts.....but cool you mention it too.
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                              "personal security, personal liberty, and private property"--could not be maintained solely by law, for "in vain would these rights be declared, ascertained, and protected by the dead letter of the laws, if the constitution had provided no other method to secure their actual enjoyment." -
                              William Blackstone

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