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  • CLUTCH
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 550

    legality question about brass knuckles

    so i am on vacation in another country. ive been wanting to pick up 2 brass knuckles witch are legal here. my question is would it be legal to bring them to california in my checked luggage? id realy love to have them on display at my house. i have checked and it is legal to have brass knuckles in ur checked luggage. i know they are illeagle in california but i have heard also that as long as they are only used as paper weights it is ok. i just dont want to bring them to california then get stopped at the airport once i arrive and thrown in jail or something.. i wouldnt mind them taking it but jail time for something silly like that doesnt sound to good.. any help would be appreciated thanks!
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    WHenderson
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 161

    Ca penal code section 12020.
    (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
    is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
    or in the state prison:
    (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
    state
    , keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
    lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
    firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
    firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
    contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
    carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
    trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
    short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
    leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
    any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
    knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
    handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
    of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
    sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
    Last edited by WHenderson; 05-25-2009, 8:12 AM.

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    • #3
      CLUTCH
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 550

      Originally posted by WHenderson
      Ca penal code section 12020.
      (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
      is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
      or in the state prison:
      (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
      state
      , keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
      lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
      firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
      firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
      contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
      carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
      trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
      short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
      leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
      any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
      knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
      handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
      of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
      sandclub, sap, or sandbag.

      Thank you! i realy appreciate it. def. wont be taking them with me to cali.
      il just leave them here with some family for when i move back.
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      • #4
        jamesob
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 4821

        who told you they were legal here? they have been illegal for 20 years or more.lol

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        • #5
          DrRik
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 4

          I figure the founding fathers didn't put in an amendment for knives, sticks and clubs, because they never, ever thought anyone would actually try to outlaw carrying one...but that's just me

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          • #6
            KDOFisch
            Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 227

            Originally posted by CLUTCH
            so i am on vacation in another country.
            Like Nevada?

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            • #7
              bohoki
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 20793

              Originally posted by DrRik
              I figure the founding fathers didn't put in an amendment for knives, sticks and clubs, because they never, ever thought anyone would actually try to outlaw carrying one...but that's just me

              they didn't specify firearms they meant all arms

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              • #8
                lorax3
                Super Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2009
                • 4633

                I was incorrect about plastic knuckles, corrected by ke6guj.

                12020.1. Any person in this state who commercially manufactures or causes to be commercially manufactured, or who knowingly imports into the state for commercial sale, keeps for commercial sale, or offers or exposes for commercial sale, any hard plastic knuckles is guilty of a misdemeanor. As used in this section, "hard plastic knuckles" means any device or instrument made wholly or partially of plastic that is not a metal knuckle as defined in paragraph (7) of subdivision (c) of Section 12020, that is worn for purposes of offense or defense in or on the hand, and that either protects the wearer's hand while striking a blow or increases the force of impact from the blow or injury to the individual receiving the blow. The plastic contained in the device may help support the hand or fist, provide a shield to protect it, or consist of projections or studs that would contact the individual receiving a blow.
                (7) As used in this section, "metal knuckles" means any device or
                instrument made wholly or partially of metal which is worn for
                purposes of offense or defense in or on the hand and which either
                protects the wearer's hand while striking a blow or increases the
                force of impact from the blow or injury to the individual receiving
                the blow. The metal contained in the device may help support the hand
                or fist, provide a shield to protect it, or consist of projections
                or studs which would contact the individual receiving a blow.
                Last edited by lorax3; 05-25-2009, 9:58 PM.
                You think you know, but you have no idea.

                The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                • #9
                  FS00008
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1975

                  Ever been hit by a pair of motorcycle gloves with Carbon Fibre/Kevlar knuckles...?

                  Those hurt me a hell of a lot more than brass knuckles.
                  "No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                  legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer."

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                  • #10
                    old-trapper
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 477

                    nope plastic knuckles were banned as well
                    " if your only as old as you feel....I'm a thousand"

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                    • #11
                      Matt C
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7128

                      They are SOOOOOOOO illegal here. Felony illegal. Don't do it, or you will end up sitting where I am in my avatar. (not fun)
                      I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                      The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                      • #12
                        MrClamperSir
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2570

                        Originally posted by FS00008
                        Ever been hit by a pair of motorcycle gloves with Carbon Fibre/Kevlar knuckles...?

                        Those hurt me a hell of a lot more than brass knuckles.
                        You've been hit with both? I actually wear Kevlar protected knuckle gloves, they are great.
                        Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

                        Originally posted by dieselpower
                        Its very rare LEO encounter some armed crazy who is going to kill them, but it happens enough to warrant their training....... And its rare to encounter LEO willing to lie, cheat and falsify testimony, but it happens enough to warrant invoking all your rights the second you are stopped.

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                        • #13
                          FS00008
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1975

                          Not at the same time, but yes. And yes, I wound up in the hospital both times. After dishing out my own punishment though. A left to the chest, right to the jaw, and steel toed boots do some real damage to punks trying to steal from you...
                          "No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                          legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer."

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                          • #14
                            E Pluribus Unum
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 8097

                            Originally posted by DrRik
                            I figure the founding fathers didn't put in an amendment for knives, sticks and clubs, because they never, ever thought anyone would actually try to outlaw carrying one...but that's just me
                            The second amendment applies to all arms of war; because military forces all over the world carry knives they would have a hard time banning them.

                            Originally posted by old-trapper
                            nope plastic knuckles were banned as well
                            Plastic Knuckles are only a misdemeanor.
                            Originally posted by Alan Gura
                            The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                            Originally posted by hoffmang
                            12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

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                            • #15
                              tombinghamthegreat
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2785



                              SO i am guess one of these with 950000 volts is illegal in CA or is it if its plastic?
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                              Originally posted by forumguy
                              The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
                              Originally posted by bwiese
                              Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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