How many Standard Mags Do You think were sold in total?

[ScottsBad]

My guess is that 1-2 million were purchased and another 1-2 million were unblocked, un-riveted, assembled, found, and retreived from the boating accident.

I know I was dragging the channel where my boating accident happened.

[mshill]

Right. On my way to Reno last Saturday I called a friend to see if he needed anything. He said "no thanks, I just found the hole that all my standard capacity magazines were buried in".

[NiMiK]

I've heard Brownells sold over 400k alone. Not sure if that's 400k mags or 400k transactions.

[sirgrumps]

Right. On my way to Reno last Saturday I called a friend to see if he needed anything. He said "no thanks, I just found the hole that all my standard capacity magazines were buried in".

[Dirtlaw]

I dropped by a local gun store today and asked the question. I was told over 2,600 were sold on the 5th alone. Multiply that by the number of gun stores and you get the idea. A lot.

Checked at another store and the same story.

[edgerly779]

Think of all the use tax owed on those purchases. Fund more cadoj to come after us. Couple million in tax owed by Californians.

[MudCamper]

Palmetto State Armory signed a sworn affidavit confirming that they’d sold magazines to “thousands” of Californians in just a couple days

And Palmetto only sold thousands?

CALI-gula is intentionally misquoting folks, as proven above. He's just trolling. Ignore him.

[CALI-gula]

My rebuttal:

Palmetto State Armory is out of AR mags.

/thread

Thanks for proving my point yet again. That just speaks to the fact that they didn't have that many on hand in the first place, no where near enough to fit the need; thousands - no "hundreds of thousands". Even for as big as they are they were caught off guard.

And how many do you think they had in the first place? Not as many you as you are assuming.

Have you ever actually been to any of their outlet stores or warehouses in South Carolina? I have. Their in-store inventory on a regular basis, and their ready for shipping supply, is nowhere near what you are suspecting.

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[CALI-gula]

CALI-gula is intentionally misquoting folks, as proven above. He's just trolling. Ignore him.

That's needless for you to say and unfortunate that you would; I don't "troll" and don't believe I ever have.

I've always been a first-at-plate proponent here on Calguns fighting for 2nd Amendment rights, an NRA/CRPA member, and one of the first in discussions about this lifting of the ban by Benitez.

However, rather than "trolling" as you suggest, I'm not just speculating as others are doing solely based on wishful thinking that we are more of an engine than we think we are.

I want truth. I WANT the numbers to be 4 Million sold, as others have only speculated. However as we have seen in the past, speculation suspected we would have 2 million responders voting against Prop 63, and/or that same number signing petitions to the 'Gunmageddon' bills over the course of multiple months, and yet we could only muster 150,000 per bad bill.

And that was over a much longer period. But for 7 days? The limitations of awareness and inventory were a hurdle.

So I'm leaving speculation on wishful thinking aside.

I'm basing my expectation on experience in these ups-and-downs since the early 1980's, plenty of history in this game, and a long time here on Calguns from fighting AB50 and SB23, through the OLL/OLR experience, rebuild-kit/SSE/SAE, and so on, and most significantly deferring to basic demographics, true results of impact and numbers from CA gun owners (from such things as purchasing and opposition statistics from fighting Prop 63 and the "Gunmageddon" bills, the response in numbers to other anti-2nd Amendment legislation, and lastly - basic logistics.)

I've offered up real-world reasons and measures as to why the numbers don't equate the imagination people are levitating, merely because their circle of influence and awareness consumes them, where as those pondering that amount have not proposed any support for the ''2 Million" sold numbers other than the legend of internet lore and "I heard of a guy...".

I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong, to have the retailers and vendors give real number-measures as to how many were actually purchased.

Do you get how that works? It's part of the discussion, but not one of "trolling".

Just because I disagree about the numbers about how many sold, and offered perspective that supports my conclusion, doesn't make me a "troll" here on Calguns particularly when I bet we agree on 99.99% of all aspects of fighting for 2nd Amendment rights and gun ownership in CA.

It's important to have accurate figures, and I would like to see solid support of the speculated results. The higher the number, the better off we can cite the commonality of ownership and interest in high-capacity magazines.

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[Eat Dirt]

[Citadelgrad87]

I bought over 20 when it was legal to do so.

But keep in mind, i was present and solvent the last time we went through a ban, and stocked up at that time.

I would venture to say i was on the low end of numbers. I only bought six AR mags, but one was a drum.

The rest were pistol mags.

I would wager that most guys who bought ar mags did so in groups of 10 mags per rifle. I know the newer shooters that i spoke to did so.

[citizen1]

Who cares !

[sirgrumps]

Ooohhh!

I like the etching.

[Foulball]

bunch of words that don't really mean anything here

However, rather than "trolling" as you suggest, I'm not just speculating as others are doing solely based on wishful thinking that we are more of an engine than we think we are. Yes, you are.

I want truth. I WANT the numbers to be 4 Million sold, as others have only speculated. However as we have seen in the past, speculation suspected we would have 2 million responders voting against Prop 63, and/or that same number signing petitions to the 'Gunmageddon' bills over the course of multiple months, and yet we could only muster 150,000 per bad bill. Where did you get this 2 million from?

And that was over a much longer period. But for 7 days? The limitations of awareness and inventory were a hurdle.

So I'm leaving speculation on wishful thinking aside. Not true, as we will see below...

I'm basing my expectation on experience in these ups-and-downs since the early 1980's --- (Before Internet, mind you) , plenty of history in this game, and a long time here on Calguns from fighting AB50 and SB23, through the OLL/OLR experience, rebuild-kit/SSE/SAE, and so on, and most significantly deferring to basic demographics, true results of impact and numbers from CA gun owners (from such things as purchasing Purchasing what exactly? and opposition statistics from fighting Prop 63 and the "Gunmageddon" bills irrelevant to this discussion, the response in numbers to other anti-2nd Amendment legislation, and lastly - basic logistics - You mean the logistics that will still be shipping mags into California well into next week?.)

I've offered up real-world reasons and measures as to why the numbers don't equate the imagination people are levitating, merely because their circle of influence and awareness consumes them, where as those pondering that amount have not proposed any support for the ''2 Million" sold numbers other than the legend of internet lore and "I heard of a guy...". No, you have said 250,000 with absolutely nothing to back it up but your opinion, based on pre-internet seller experience and the fact that you think only Calguns members bought magazines. Hate to remind you, most CA gun owners don't bother with Calguns but heard about this judgment from other sources.

I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong, to have the retailers and vendors give real number-measures as to how many were actually purchased.I'm sure you will be proven wrong, eventually.

Do you get how that works? It's part of the discussion, but not one of "trolling". Agreed, you are not a troll.

Just because I disagree about the numbers about how many sold, and offered perspective that supports my conclusion - not really, just offered your own opinion based on 1980, 1999 - before the internet vendors and mega-warehouse distributors mind you, and a damn sign up sheet. Not really any better of a way to come up with numbers compared to actual experience with trying to find a vendor online that has standard capacity mags, doesn't make me a "troll" here on Calguns particularly when I bet we agree on 99.99% of all aspects of fighting for 2nd Amendment rights and gun ownership in CA.

It's important to have accurate figures, and I would like to see solid support of the speculated results. The higher the number, the better off we can cite the commonality of ownership and interest in high-capacity magazines.

I agree with your last two sentences. Everything else is just speculation, like everyone else here. So stop trying to tell others they are wrong based on your "experience". It makes you seem really petty and brings nothing to the table.

Look, we will find out the total in a week or so, no need to bump up or pull down what we think it will be. Hopefully we will all be surprised and it'll be really good.

[Dvrjon]

Who cares !