How many Standard Mags Do You think were sold in total?

[SmallShark]

i believe 5 per buyer is a very very minimum.

10 pmags for less than a hundred dollars, and you have this once of a life time opportunity.

you only buy 5?

[Hornman]

[CALI-gula]

LOL

I sent 114 mags to 13 Calgunners. The fewest I sent to one person was 2 mags, the most was 24. For each and every one of these individuals, the mags I sent were a small portion of what they purchased during freedom week.

Palmetto State Armory signed a sworn affidavit confirming that they’d sold magazines to “thousands” of Californians in just a couple days time. And that was just one retailer. Do you think people were ordering 1 or 2 or 5 mags from PSA?

Every single online retailer who’s chimes in has reported being overwhelmed by CA orders, having inventory cleaned out.

250,000 magazines? I (respectfully) disagree.

You just confirmed my point.

Calgunners would have been the most prolific buyers. And you ONLY sent an average of almost 9 to each one. Is that all? And if that had been a small portion, you are still only talking small portions comparatively.

And Palmetto only sold thousands? They are one of the largest and most thoroughly stock retailers selling the broadest range of magazines. So if the largest retailer is selling only thousands, the average retailer is only selling hundreds.

And being overwhelmed by CA orders does not mean they could meet those orders, nor fill those orders as many retailers utilize the same suppliers and real-time inventory feedback was proving anything but that. And what is "overwhelmed" anyway?

Most retailers would get overwhelmed quickly because they were caught off guard for not having insufficient stock due to the low interest that has mulled since Trump became President, whereby there has been no fear of an ban (on anything) these past few years. Interest has been low, so inventory was low.

Those of us that have been around since the 1980's and have seen the rollercoaster of purchasing panics or sprees, short term or otherwise, have a much better handle on the reality of purchasing numbers that have resulted versus the false ubiquitousness the internet and social-media implies.

It seems ever-present in the atmosphere to those that learned of the opportunity, whereby obsessing over it created the illusions more buying/sales were going on that actually have proven to be.

No different than the comparison to weak numbers on the petitions against Prop 63, I have seen the repeated trend show that the resulting numbers will be much, much less than what people are assuming.

On the high side, a number that would fall between 250,000 and 500,000 is more likely. I would love to boast it was millions to the Anti-2nd Amendment crowd and Newsom himself, but it just isn't likely solely due to the limited number of those having been in the know that would have ordered, weak inventory, and logistics.

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[SteelPastor]

I am the only person out of my circle on calguns, and trust me, I wasn't the only one buying mags. Others knew before I did.

[GunsInMyEyes]

Somewhere around 2 million I bet

[rubicon2014]

19 Mags

i believe 5 per buyer is a very very minimum.

10 pmags for less than a hundred dollars, and you have this once of a life time opportunity.

you only buy 5?

I do not consider myself a heavy purchaser but I bought 19 assorted mags from assorted dealers.

[L4D]

There was the a crazy kit deadline some years back that caused retailers to go out of stock worse than this window did. I think more kits were sold during that time than this window. There were retailers out of stock for WEEKS!

[InfringedInCalifornia]

Not enough

[sirgrumps]

There was the a crazy kit deadline some years back that caused retailers to go out of stock worse than this window did. I think more kits were sold during that time than this window. There were retailers out of stock for WEEKS!

[Nvidkiller]

Ok, but don't forget calguns is not the only source of this info. This news was ALL OVER Reddit which has tens of thousands of users in r/guns and r/firearms alone. Then there are all the other gun sites national and ca related. Then there were the constant nra ila news blasts out over email. And of course there were la times, sac bee, etc etc articles. This was not limited to calguns members, no way.

And of course anyone who walked into a lgs for any reason would have seen the mags out for sale.

Truth is we may never know, which is a good thing!

Out of all the active firearms enthusiasts I know, I am the only one on Calguns. However, not one of them missed out on this window. The news was everywhere

[SlimBlundt]

My rebuttal:

Palmetto State Armory is out of AR mags.

/thread

You just confirmed my point.

Calgunners would have been the most prolific buyers. And you ONLY sent an average of almost 9 to each one. Is that all? And if that had been a small portion, you are still only talking small portions comparatively.

And Palmetto only sold thousands? They are one of the largest and most thoroughly stock retailers selling the broadest range of magazines. So if the largest retailer is selling only thousands, the average retailer is only selling hundreds.

And being overwhelmed by CA orders does not mean they could meet those orders, nor fill those orders as many retailers utilize the same suppliers and real-time inventory feedback was proving anything but that. And what is "overwhelmed" anyway?

Most retailers would get overwhelmed quickly because they were caught off guard for not having insufficient stock due to the low interest that has mulled since Trump became President, whereby there has been no fear of an ban (on anything) these past few years. Interest has been low, so inventory was low.

Those of us that have been around since the 1980's and have seen the rollercoaster of purchasing panics or sprees, short term or otherwise, have a much better handle on the reality of purchasing numbers that have resulted versus the false ubiquitousness the internet and social-media implies.

It seems ever-present in the atmosphere to those that learned of the opportunity, whereby obsessing over it created the illusions more buying/sales were going on that actually have proven to be.

No different than the comparison to weak numbers on the petitions against Prop 63, I have seen the repeated trend show that the resulting numbers will be much, much less than what people are assuming.

On the high side, a number that would fall between 250,000 and 500,000 is more likely. I would love to boast it was millions to the Anti-2nd Amendment crowd and Newsom himself, but it just isn't likely solely due to the limited number of those having been in the know that would have ordered, weak inventory, and logistics.

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[3B830]

My rebuttal:

Palmetto State Armory is out of AR mags.

/thread

I suspect this was PSA

Looks like 200,000 from just one online retailer: https://www.ammoland.com/2019/04/cal...#axzz5kLTa0IyE

[Unsilenced]

Can anyone point me to a statement by Brownells saying it was $350,000, not 350,000 magazines? The original thread says the representative said 350,000 magazines, and I can't find where people keep getting this dollar sign.

Given that other retailers also reported six digit numbers for units moved (and one, I believe maybe Bud's, that speculated they would move 7 digits by week's end) it seems to me like 350,000 is entirely reasonable, making the insistence that it was less than a million in total absurd.

[Steveg13]

I remember the original post said 350,000 magazines but somewhere along the way in the responses someone added the dollar sign. It may have just been a misquote.

[omarperez48]