CGF Coalition Lawsuit: DC Handgun Roster

[hoffmang]

Gents,

Here is an excellent story by Mike Stollenwork, who is also doing heavy lifting on this case. He has photos and backgrounds of the Plaintiffs.

We're at stage 1 of a federal lawsuit. It will take time for a decision to be rendered in the District Court.

A ruling that the CA Handgun Roster is unconstitutional in the DC Circuit will be highly persuasive sister circuit jurisprudence.

-Gene

[Liberty1]

Gents,

Here is an excellent story by Mike Stollenwork, who is also doing heavy lifting on this case. He has photos and backgrounds of the Plaintiffs.

We're at stage 1 of a federal lawsuit. It will take time for a decision to be rendered in the District Court.

A ruling that the CA Handgun Roster is unconstitutional in the DC Circuit will be highly persuasive sister circuit jurisprudence.

-Gene

Ha, I just sent Mike a message about this Breaking News. I should have known he was involved.

Hanson's gun the WRONG color? That is rich in the age of Obama!

[glockman19]

You could also add a couple of Kimbers to the list that have identical working parts to ones on the list, but maybe different color/finish or grips.

Greta news.

If it is found unconstitutional in DC...How does that help us here? will it establish that our list is unconstitutional too?

[domokun]

Down with the roster!

[7x57]

Hanson's gun the WRONG color. That is rich in the age of Obama!

For those that didn't click, Hanson is a black woman.

Hmm. D'ya suppose she has a dream that someday all guns will be accepted regardless of color? I'm just sayin'.

Hey, maybe we can figure out how to get the DC council to make gun owners ride in the back of the bus? Nah, probably even they aren't that stupid.

7x57

[wash]

After reading the article, I hope someone from CGF can personally thank all of the plaintiffs for their participation in this matter.

We are rooting for them!

[trashman]

Great news, Gene - just saw the post on ofarmsandthelaw...

--Neill

[bwiese]

You could also add a couple of Kimbers to the list that have identical working parts to ones on the list, but maybe different color/finish or grips.

Yes, I'm sure this is applicable to Kimber. But both ParaOrdnance & Springfield Armory are the worst in this regard - both changed SKUs/model #s every time they sneezed - sometimes even if the gun itself didn't change (but was part of a 'package', say, with extra mags or holster, etc.) If you look at Roster traffic over a several year period, you'll see a huge number of Paras & Springers go on & off the list. Browning Buckmark and Ruger Mk??? 22LR auto pistols also have their share of Roster traffic due to trivial changes.

If it is found unconstitutional in DC...How does that help us here? will it establish that our list is unconstitutional too?

Like Gene said, the finding in a DC circuit that the Roster is BS will have 'great weight' out here. Going thru DC was, happily, a short circuit that nicely presented itself at the right time.

I believe this will also help stop spreading CA laws further in other states - no more "let's just copy CA's laws". This can open up a whole 'nuther round of screwups.

[7x57]

I believe this will also help stop spreading CA laws further in other states - no more "let's just copy CA's laws". This can open up a whole 'nuther round of screwups.

I hadn't thought of that, but I sure hope so. It may seem a bit disloyal, but having come to California from America keeping CA laws from metastasizing to the rest of the body is almost more important to me than getting rid of them here. As I told my father-in-law once, "you may not plan to ever live in California, but California will come looking for you."

7x57

[tiki]

I certainly enjoyed reading this, but I doubt it will have much effect. Personally I think with Pelosi and Feinstein over there, we'll probably see the roster requirement go away in D.C. before this hits SCOTUS. I can't imagine they would go ahead with this case knowing that it has virtually no chance of being upheld by SCOTUS.
Of course I hope that it does go to the judges, but I'm not holding my breath on this one. We'll probably see the CA list get challenged in the 9th after incorporation. I think they may go with it for a while to see if the makeup of the court changes in a year or so, but I doubt they will take it to the current court.

[10001110101]

Just dropped another donation to CGF after reading.

This just brings a big grin to my face.

Paul Helmke's reaction probably went something like this:

A big thanks to all involved!

[xxdabroxx]

This is good news, but i could see DC dropping the idea of the roster prior to it getting to some judges. I hope that it does make it to the court room, but either way it is a win. Great job guys, if all the 2A groups were as proactive as CGF, think of where we would be now.

So DC said, where California did not, that you cannot possess a non-rostered handgun; because they will only issue permits for handguns on california's roster?

I like that the Chief of Police is being sued both as an individual and in her official capacities. (keep other gun grabbers from getting bright ideas so quickly)

[grammaton76]

Oh, c'mon, we want DC to adopt as many CA laws as possible now, particularly when they're lifted word-for-word from our statutes.

Heck, in DC you get to go straight up to federal.

[Flintlock Tom]

Gene,
I take my hat off to you and the team that put this together.

Donation sent.

[M. D. Van Norman]

And thus we begin the CGF offense.

Outstanding!